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Alpha bots lowering the value of LP.

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Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2017-01-08 20:09:13 UTC
Sequester Risalo wrote:
I think there is an organisation which claims to fight bot aspirant behaviour. If this is really turning into a problem, I'm sure this organisation will rise and shine. Otherwise you can always report bots.

I don't think the LP markets have been too distorted by these bots yet.


Ahem. Yes, the New Order of Highsec aims to rid the region of bots and all bot-aspirant behaviour. Highsec, that is.

Alas, botting in Lowsec isn't covered by our Code, but if I may just offer a suggestion to the OP; simply make your case, with as much detail as possible, and present it to CCP in the appropriate feedback thread.

I came here expecting to read something about a damsel, but had my attention hijacked by a headline possibly promising useful information about cheap vinyl Beatles covers...

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Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#22 - 2017-01-09 19:20:26 UTC
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:
Anize Oramara wrote:
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:
Muffinmixer wrote:
Have you even looked at L4 distribution missions? They only make around 1000 LP in highsec with Alpha social skills. No salvage or loot or bounties with that.

That's nothing.


thats 1000 LP with zero effort, every ~5 minutes.

and of course it has to become a enormous problem before the incompetents at CCP will do anything about it.

I can make 14k LP and +- 10mill in 5min for very little effort. End of the day this isn't something that can be done en mass without circumventing the EULA and if they are then that means you have a valid complaint and should take your evidence to CCP that people are running multiple alpha clients at the same time.


LOL. What a ridiculous moron you must be to make such a comparison.

Running a bot takes zero effort other than setting up the bot initially. You can leave it on all day and night.

Nobody is going to bother to go to the trouble of reporting every hauler they see on the possibility they might be using a bot . This isn't something the players should have to be responsible for cleaning up. The solutions are simple but CCP are just too unwilling and incompetent to figure it out.



So.. you don't actually have any proof is what I'm reading?

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NofriendNoLifeStilPostin
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2017-01-14 00:34:44 UTC  |  Edited by: NofriendNoLifeStilPostin
Anize Oramara wrote:
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:
Anize Oramara wrote:
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:
Muffinmixer wrote:
Have you even looked at L4 distribution missions? They only make around 1000 LP in highsec with Alpha social skills. No salvage or loot or bounties with that.

That's nothing.


thats 1000 LP with zero effort, every ~5 minutes.

and of course it has to become a enormous problem before the incompetents at CCP will do anything about it.

I can make 14k LP and +- 10mill in 5min for very little effort. End of the day this isn't something that can be done en mass without circumventing the EULA and if they are then that means you have a valid complaint and should take your evidence to CCP that people are running multiple alpha clients at the same time.


LOL. What a ridiculous moron you must be to make such a comparison.

Running a bot takes zero effort other than setting up the bot initially. You can leave it on all day and night.

Nobody is going to bother to go to the trouble of reporting every hauler they see on the possibility they might be using a bot . This isn't something the players should have to be responsible for cleaning up. The solutions are simple but CCP are just too unwilling and incompetent to figure it out.



So.. you don't actually have any proof is what I'm reading?


are you really so stupid that you need to be provided evidence of what should be common sense?

botting courier missions is very likely the most isk an alpha can make per hour while afk.
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#24 - 2017-01-14 03:37:22 UTC
So you don't have any proof? Just want to make sure I understand correctly.

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NofriendNoLifeStilPostin
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2017-01-14 04:53:57 UTC  |  Edited by: NofriendNoLifeStilPostin
Anize Oramara wrote:
So you don't have any proof? Just want to make sure I understand correctly.


Sure I do. Just read the previous posts you made.

You actually made a comparison between what you can potentially make while actively playing vs botting, demonstrating that you failed to even understand the point of this thread.

This is proof that you are a very stupid person who lacks common sense.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#26 - 2017-01-14 07:13:59 UTC
So can I give up blitzing Burners and missions for this new income stream?

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#27 - 2017-01-14 09:05:37 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
So can I give up blitzing Burners and missions for this new income stream?

Sound like it. Will have to retire my guide it seems. Ah well it was good while it lasted. Pirate

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
Abyss Azizora
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2017-01-14 11:03:12 UTC
Anize Oramara wrote:
Since you can't run an alpha account on the same machine as another alpha or even omega account, you'd have to explain to me how you feel this is botting? Circumventing that limitation is indeed against the EULA and as such will result in bans but just running a single alpha account and running distribution missions (that's kinda bleh in terms of rewards to begin with) doesn't really seem like botting.


*cough* Virtual Machines *cough* Sandboxed clients *cough* Multiple PC's *cough*

I could run around 25-30 alpha accounts at once if I really wanted to. Other people who actually WANT to do this can do even more. Also I don;t think bottling means what you think it means.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#29 - 2017-01-14 11:50:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
Abyss Azizora wrote:
*cough* Virtual Machines *cough* Sandboxed clients *cough* Multiple PC's *cough*

I could run around 25-30 alpha accounts at once if I really wanted to. Other people who actually WANT to do this can do even more. Also I don;t think bottling means what you think it means.

And here I always thought FW largely influenced LP conversion rates...

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Chelian Dendrotoxin
Mamaroneck Trading Company
#30 - 2017-01-14 14:40:37 UTC
So we're actually still complaining about this? This is lamer than 'don't let them gank me in HS' AND 'make all of HS like lowesec' combined.
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2017-01-14 14:50:52 UTC
Anize Oramara wrote:
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
So can I give up blitzing Burners and missions for this new income stream?

Sound like it. Will have to retire my guide it seems. Ah well it was good while it lasted. Pirate



We are talking about botting, morons. Comparing it to what you can make actively playing the game is a nonsensical comparison.

You should really feel embarrassed for displaying such blatant stupidity.
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#32 - 2017-01-14 14:52:53 UTC
Abyss Azizora wrote:
Anize Oramara wrote:
Since you can't run an alpha account on the same machine as another alpha or even omega account, you'd have to explain to me how you feel this is botting? Circumventing that limitation is indeed against the EULA and as such will result in bans but just running a single alpha account and running distribution missions (that's kinda bleh in terms of rewards to begin with) doesn't really seem like botting.


*cough* Virtual Machines *cough* Sandboxed clients *cough* Multiple PC's *cough*

I could run around 25-30 alpha accounts at once if I really wanted to. Other people who actually WANT to do this can do even more. Also I don;t think bottling means what you think it means.

Well yea you could but how long till they IP ban you since you're straight up breaking the EULA?

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2017-01-14 14:56:48 UTC
Abyss Azizora wrote:
Anize Oramara wrote:
Since you can't run an alpha account on the same machine as another alpha or even omega account, you'd have to explain to me how you feel this is botting? Circumventing that limitation is indeed against the EULA and as such will result in bans but just running a single alpha account and running distribution missions (that's kinda bleh in terms of rewards to begin with) doesn't really seem like botting.


*cough* Virtual Machines *cough* Sandboxed clients *cough* Multiple PC's *cough*

I could run around 25-30 alpha accounts at once if I really wanted to. Other people who actually WANT to do this can do even more. Also I don;t think bottling means what you think it means.


^ This.

Abyss gets it.
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#34 - 2017-01-14 14:58:36 UTC
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:
Abyss Azizora wrote:
Anize Oramara wrote:
Since you can't run an alpha account on the same machine as another alpha or even omega account, you'd have to explain to me how you feel this is botting? Circumventing that limitation is indeed against the EULA and as such will result in bans but just running a single alpha account and running distribution missions (that's kinda bleh in terms of rewards to begin with) doesn't really seem like botting.


*cough* Virtual Machines *cough* Sandboxed clients *cough* Multiple PC's *cough*

I could run around 25-30 alpha accounts at once if I really wanted to. Other people who actually WANT to do this can do even more. Also I don;t think bottling means what you think it means.


^ This.

Abyss gets it.

You should totally do this and let us know how it goes, I bet you can make a killing! You should even put together a guide for us :)

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin
State War Academy
Caldari State
#35 - 2017-01-14 15:17:51 UTC  |  Edited by: NofriendNoLifeStilPostin
Anize Oramara wrote:
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:
Abyss Azizora wrote:
Anize Oramara wrote:
Since you can't run an alpha account on the same machine as another alpha or even omega account, you'd have to explain to me how you feel this is botting? Circumventing that limitation is indeed against the EULA and as such will result in bans but just running a single alpha account and running distribution missions (that's kinda bleh in terms of rewards to begin with) doesn't really seem like botting.


*cough* Virtual Machines *cough* Sandboxed clients *cough* Multiple PC's *cough*

I could run around 25-30 alpha accounts at once if I really wanted to. Other people who actually WANT to do this can do even more. Also I don;t think bottling means what you think it means.


^ This.

Abyss gets it.

You should totally do this and let us know how it goes, I bet you can make a killing! You should even put together a guide for us :)


Lol

The reason I created this thread was because I don't want people to be able to do this.

Pretty funny how incredibly dumb you are.

Haven't you embarrassed yourself enough?
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#36 - 2017-01-14 15:21:27 UTC
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:
The reason I created this thread was because I don't want people to be able to do this.

Pretty sure they're not, so mission accomplished!

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#37 - 2017-01-14 15:49:10 UTC
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:
Lol

The reason I created this thread was because I don't want people to be able to do this.

Pretty funny how incredibly dumb you are.

Haven't you embarrassed yourself enough?

Ah, so it's not possible then, good stuff.

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin
State War Academy
Caldari State
#38 - 2017-01-14 16:03:09 UTC  |  Edited by: NofriendNoLifeStilPostin
Anize Oramara wrote:
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:
Lol

The reason I created this thread was because I don't want people to be able to do this.

Pretty funny how incredibly dumb you are.

Haven't you embarrassed yourself enough?

Ah, so it's not possible then, good stuff.


Roll

Getting desperate now, are we?


http://www.zenzoneforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16643&d=1340493214


sorry, clown. You aren't fooling anyone.

Try harder.
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#39 - 2017-01-14 16:12:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Anize Oramara
I think the irony of how accurately that applies here will fortunately not be lost on any of us, thank you for dredging that up. Pirate

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin
State War Academy
Caldari State
#40 - 2017-01-14 16:19:50 UTC  |  Edited by: NofriendNoLifeStilPostin
Anize Oramara wrote:
I think the irony of how accurately that applies here will fortunately not be lost on any of us, thank you for dredging that up. Pirate


Clowns like you who go around saying nonsensical crap in order to get a reaction out of people are the lowest level of troll. Every post you've made further demonstrates that, and how right I am about you.

Mommy and daddy really should have given you more attention.

Truth hurt?

Deal with it. Cool