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Press Release: Pandemic Horde

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James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#21 - 2017-01-12 01:47:03 UTC  |  Edited by: James Syagrius
Mr. Mokk.

Congratulations and best wishes to you and yours in their efforts to foster ethical business practices within the State.
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2017-01-12 02:51:23 UTC
James Syagrius wrote:
Mr. Mokk.

Congratulations and best wishes to your and yours in their efforts to foster ethical business practices within the State.



Thank you very much Mr. Syagrius. Feel free to stop by our trade hub sometime. We can have a drink and discuss business.


"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Yebo Lakatosh
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2017-01-13 06:13:12 UTC
Hehh. Always wanted to visit the North to see the sights, try the drinks n' boosta' flavours. Might as well do it when there are fireworks. Thanks fo' the heads up!

Elite F1 pilot since YC119, incarnate of honor, integrity and tidi.

Matar Ronin
#24 - 2017-01-13 06:46:01 UTC
Seems like the "State" is very attractive to criminal corporations. Perhaps the Horde will infuse the local economy and better the lives of the down trodden masses. Let's hope for the best. A fresh capsuleer megacorp might be just what is needed.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2017-01-13 07:28:12 UTC
Matar Ronin wrote:
Seems like the "State" is very attractive to criminal corporations. Perhaps the Horde will infuse the local economy and better the lives of the down trodden masses. Let's hope for the best. A fresh capsuleer megacorp might be just what is needed.


You can blame the Guristas for opening the window to trade with the State. However, really, any capsuleer could just waltz right on in to Jita and bypass the Gurista fencers entirely.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#26 - 2017-01-13 18:39:33 UTC
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
James Syagrius wrote:
Mr. Mokk.

Congratulations and best wishes to you and yours in their efforts to foster ethical business practices within the State.


Thank you very much, Mr. Syagrius. Feel free to stop by our trade hub sometime. We can have a drink and discuss business.

A kind offer, that I would avail myself of if the State Navy would permit.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#27 - 2017-01-13 19:02:34 UTC
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
James Syagrius wrote:
Mr. Mokk.

Congratulations and best wishes to your and yours in their efforts to foster ethical business practices within the State.


Thank you very much Mr. Syagrius. Feel free to stop by our trade hub sometime. We can have a drink and discuss business.


Hey, Mokk, since you've got people buying into the 'ethical business practices' nonsense, exactly what unethical business practices were present?
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2017-01-13 19:39:19 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
[quote=Sinjin Mokk]
Hey, Mokk, since you've got people buying into the 'ethical business practices' nonsense, exactly what unethical business practices were present?



The key to any successful relationship is communication and trust.

Our current enemies were given the opportunity to engage in fair business. They chose a path path of dishonesty. Now while this can happen in some business relationships, in this case it was rather severe. And since these companies were in control of a large portion of the local market, if they weren't square with us, it was highly doubtful they were square with anyone. They were trying to have a...what's the Caldari word? A..Dokusen? A Monopoly.

So as I write this, we've made that fairly impossible for them. With the removal of several Raitarus, Azbels, a Sotiyo (the first ever destroyed in combat) and countless Planetary Commodity exchanges (POCOs) throughout the surrounding systems, we've been able to systematically remove them from the local economy (HORDE-style).

Be sure to swing by Perimeter today. We have some additional exercises in "Mergers and Acquisitions" (Murders and Executions) lined up, with plenty of fireworks.



"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Window Licker McTard
Doomheim
#29 - 2017-01-13 19:52:25 UTC
And I thoughts the Pandemic Jita Vendetta thingy was about Sol returning to bust a cap on his old Archie merc bro's who dissed and diched him as CEO. Revenge is a dish best served cold and all that. Man you guys are deeeeep thinkers, my brain would explode if I did all your thinkng. But hey im just a special elit ganker. Evil

I'm a special elite ganker, Codes finest warrior bard druid. I gank as much as possible cause I'm good. Don't mess with me minor, i'll mess with you harder. I have no honor. Dommy and Sasha are my wingmen and have my backside.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#30 - 2017-01-13 20:40:03 UTC
Sinjin Mokk wrote:

The key to any successful relationship is communication and trust.

Our current enemies were given the opportunity to engage in fair business. They chose a path path of dishonesty.


So how does 'communication and trust' square with Gobbins' misrepresentation of the demands he made on Karin? I mean, you're citing 'a path of dishonesty' as the crime. Meanwhile, Gobbins is saying it was an offer of '50/50', and everyone else involved (both from RMT and Pandemic Legion) is saying it was a demand of 100bn up front, and 80% of the profits ongoing. So, isn't that a path of dishonesty?

And even you attempted to portray all of this as a purely altruistic 'oh, Horde came in to make things better for traders' until you were confronted and admitted it's because Gobbins is after all the imaginary ISK he's fool enough to think is there for the taking.

So... 'trust'? 'Dishonesty'?
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#31 - 2017-01-13 20:52:21 UTC
Don't take Sinjin's posts as representative of anyone but Sinjin, seriously. I mean, he's actually not a terrible poster for what he is, but he shiptoasts more than I do.
Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#32 - 2017-01-13 21:31:43 UTC
Matar Ronin wrote:
Seems like the "State" is very attractive to criminal corporations. Perhaps the Horde will infuse the local economy and better the lives of the down trodden masses. Let's hope for the best. A fresh capsuleer megacorp might be just what is needed.

Horde? Are you serious right now? Lol
Alex Hinkelmann
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#33 - 2017-01-13 21:33:57 UTC
Saille Horo'Sha
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#34 - 2017-01-13 21:35:58 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Don't take Sinjin's posts as representative of anyone but Sinjin, seriously. I mean, he's actually not a terrible poster for what he is, but he shiptoasts more than I do.


Let's be honest lass, you COULD get a bean to write up one of these press releases to make it 'represent' Horde a wee bit better, but we're almost as bad at aligning text as we are at aligning ships. No-one wants to see that. Aside from the Imperium's propaganda team, maybe.

I barely have the ISK to keep myself flying. I'm a terrible pilot. I'm an even worse businesswoman. I'm not even sure what half my ship's controls are for. But in some small way, I'm helping. And I couldn't be happier.

Persephone Alleile
Tartarus Covert Operations
#35 - 2017-01-13 21:36:05 UTC
Matar Ronin wrote:
Seems like the "State" is very attractive to criminal corporations. Perhaps the Horde will infuse the local economy and better the lives of the down trodden masses. Let's hope for the best. A fresh capsuleer megacorp might be just what is needed.



The horde will better the lives of their leadership, the downtrodden masses will remain downtrodden, the planets will continue to revolve in their orbits.
John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#36 - 2017-01-13 21:37:57 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Sinjin Mokk wrote:

The key to any successful relationship is communication and trust.

Our current enemies were given the opportunity to engage in fair business. They chose a path path of dishonesty.


So how does 'communication and trust' square with Gobbins' misrepresentation of the demands he made on Karin? I mean, you're citing 'a path of dishonesty' as the crime. Meanwhile, Gobbins is saying it was an offer of '50/50', and everyone else involved (both from RMT and Pandemic Legion) is saying it was a demand of 100bn up front, and 80% of the profits ongoing. So, isn't that a path of dishonesty?

And even you attempted to portray all of this as a purely altruistic 'oh, Horde came in to make things better for traders' until you were confronted and admitted it's because Gobbins is after all the imaginary ISK he's fool enough to think is there for the taking.

So... 'trust'? 'Dishonesty'?


There is no trust involved here and the only communication is a generous slathering of lies. Mokk claiming Horde somehow has the high-ground on the matter is laughable. Why he continues with his charade is beyond me.

Ishukone Loyalist - Private Contractor

"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."

Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#37 - 2017-01-13 23:13:13 UTC
Saille Horo'Sha wrote:
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Don't take Sinjin's posts as representative of anyone but Sinjin, seriously. I mean, he's actually not a terrible poster for what he is, but he shiptoasts more than I do.


Let's be honest lass, you COULD get a bean to write up one of these press releases to make it 'represent' Horde a wee bit better, but we're almost as bad at aligning text as we are at aligning ships. No-one wants to see that. Aside from the Imperium's propaganda team, maybe.


Oh come now you're not that bad at it. I mean, I've seen 'Imperium' fleet movements. You guys clear that bar at the very least. Have you ever tried getting a comprehensive d-scan of a goon fleet? Unintentional it may be, but having one fleet spread across multiple systems full of stragglers is a surprisingly effective means of making scout reporting infuriatingly tedious.
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2017-01-13 23:37:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayallah
Sinjin, what is this bullshit?

You are in PanFam, not in the Imperium. We do not do need these 'here is why we are doing what we are doing and why you should be on our side' posts. We ACT, New Eden REACTS.

**** the soft ball 'helping the people's market' and 'danger to the economy of the north' excuse. No one at all is buying it and the people who think otherwise are just going to dig deeper into their idiotic conspiracy fueled heads hearing it. **** your assurances and damage control and stop wasting your time explaining the causes and sequence of events that got Horde here.

Horde is taking over the highsec tax haven's. That is all these people need to know and that is all you need to share.

They will figure the rest out themselves. Just like when our supercapitals appear on grid and their regions burn, just like when their members leave en mass because of waffle camps at every hour of the day for months, and just like when they see the horde ticker on every citadel outside Jita.

Our actions will speak for themselves.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.

Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2017-01-14 00:11:02 UTC
John Revenent wrote:

There is no trust involved here and the only communication is a generous slathering of lies. Mokk claiming Horde somehow has the high-ground on the matter is laughable. Why he continues with his charade is beyond me.



So is basic arithmetic.


But do swing by Perimeter and you can file a proper protest with the Complaints Dept.


"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Arrendis
TK Corp
#40 - 2017-01-14 00:11:35 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Have you ever tried getting a comprehensive d-scan of a goon fleet? Unintentional it may be, but having one fleet spread across multiple systems full of stragglers is a surprisingly effective means of making scout reporting infuriatingly tedious.


S'truth, we're amazingly bad at aligning. Thank goodness most of our enemies are even worse at tackling stragglers.