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Looking for help on a Navy Scorpion PvE Fit
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Tess Brilling
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2017-01-12 00:35:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Tess Brilling
I've been flying this ****** drake for a while now. Tried to do levels 4's, I can survive fine but damage output isn't high enough. I figured a Navy Scorpion would be a good choice as its a bit more tanky (friendly for the noobs) than the raven. I havn't had a chance to learn active shield tanking yet so I'm looking for a fit that would be a bit more forgiving and I can add more dps and decrease tank when I'm ready.

Also I only have the skills to use cruise missiles 1 so my plan was to use rapid missle launcher 2 for now. Good or bad idea?
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#2 - 2017-01-12 02:10:17 UTC
Well, you can passive tank a SNI:

[Scorpion Navy Issue, L4 RHML what?]

Type-D Restrained Shield Power Relay
Type-D Restrained Shield Power Relay
Type-D Restrained Shield Power Relay
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Shield Recharger II
Shield Recharger II
Large Micro Jump Drive
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermal Dissipation Amplifier II

Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
[Empty High slot]

Large Core Defense Field Purger I
Large Core Defense Field Purger I
Large Core Defense Field Purger I

It's not great. RHMLs don't do excellent damage when reload is factored in (pretty good if you ignore it though).

Tank on here is only 400ish omni; you can obviously adjust to mission-specific to get that number up.

More realistically, you can active tank the hell out of it:

[Scorpion Navy Issue, L4 RHML active]

Ballistic Control System II
Missile Guidance Enhancer II
Missile Guidance Enhancer II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

X-Large Shield Booster II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier I
Large Micro Jump Drive
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermal Dissipation Amplifier II

Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
[Empty High slot]

Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard I
Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard I
Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard I

Honestly I wouldn't do that either, but as long as you have charges in the cap booster you're tanking 800 omni which should be more than enough. Damage is also up; 493 with recharges. Application is also up with the two MGEs.

Overall I'd go for cruise sooner than later though. RHMLs are nice for PvP but they're just not that hot for L4s where sustained damage is more important than burst damage. Maybe aim for this:

[Scorpion Navy Issue, L4 RHML active]

Ballistic Control System II
Missile Guidance Enhancer II
Missile Guidance Enhancer II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

X-Large Shield Booster II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Large Micro Jump Drive
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermal Dissipation Amplifier II
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
[Empty High slot]

Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard I
Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard I

Tank drops to 635 omni, damage jumps to 651. The extra application from the MGC helps as well. No reason at all to range script; I wouldn't even carry one on this fit. The micro jump drive will keep you far enough away from your targets that they shouldn't much hit you anyway. Idea is to only cap boost when you drop below optimal recharge. Ditto shield boost. It shouldn't be needed much in either case; your'e firing missile out to lock range.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#3 - 2017-01-12 02:23:45 UTC
I'd suck it up and train cruise missiles to 4, oh and get a navy raven, there is a reason the navy raven is 2.5x as popular as the navy scorp (by eyeball of jita trade volume over the last year). The navy scorp is a ****** raven with extra mid slots and some bonus* so useless that I forget what it is (and yes I was saying that back when the raven had 6 mids).

copy/pasta fit, if you want a gtfo option fit a micro jump drive. Swap resists and ammo for the npc you are fighting. If you manage your cap, you probably won't even need the injector for most missions. There are many ways to pimp it with shiny mods and make it better, but this is a pretty cheap setup. If you really want the navy scorp go for it, it is pretty much the same ship, just worse. I prefer 5x light 3x sentry drones, but assume most people I show this fit to don't have the sentry skills so it has a flight of each type of lights.
[Raven Navy Issue, CNR m4 cruise]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Signal Amplifier II

Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Republic Fleet Target Painter
100MN Afterburner II

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst II

Hornet II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Acolyte II x5
Warrior II x5


*the resist bonus is the useless one by the way I didn't forget

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
#4 - 2017-01-12 14:46:21 UTC
I like Chainsaw's fit on the CNR.

-Kirst

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.