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Massive npc corp standing hit for pod killing

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Etain Darklightner Agittain
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2017-01-11 09:51:52 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Etain Darklightner Agittain wrote:
Oh goodness, you've got remi involved....

At any rate, the SoE epic arc storyline had me head into Gillette space, went to the where the agent is supposedly located and she wasn't there (or I went to the wrong station. So then I take a look at my standings, seeing as how I read this thread a few days ago and sure enough my standings are low enough to be shoot in sight....

There has got to be a way to get our standings back up with certain factions to at least be neutral. Someone had posted that diplomacy is helpful with this. Should I also skill up the other PR skills as well?

If that is the case I'll have to wait on doing the rest of the epic arc storyline.....


you cant be neutral to factions while also shooting them


I don't really shoot them.... well if you count the rats that pop into system then yes.... well crap... so no ratting.

So then players that are a part of npc corps are technically tied into the faction warfare bit?

I can see why any decent SoE drops go for so mucb... this is a pain the ass to do their story arc, as mucb as I enjoy the story..

Hmm maybe just change colors as I do the story for the sake of doing the story... I've also noted that your corps standings can vastly affect your own standings either positively or negatively.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#42 - 2017-01-11 10:00:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
As a side note, we saw gankers blow up a freighter with all the toons in DCM, we did find that amusing... Twisted Sadly for you gankers most AG players kill gankers with their alts and not their main toons, but it is a smart move as always...

I don't mine in space where DCM operates so it has zero impact on me, just so you know...

Does it actually reduce standing if the player is criminal? I did some very limited experiments with this on SISI and had the impression it has no effect if the character in question was criminal.

Well it will get interesting once the response fleet learns how to warp, which is if I am not mistaken in the pipeline in some form or another Big smile

Remi actually started a thread a while back about how stupid the situation with DCM is. But the carebear collective just ignored the speculations about how this could actually turn on them and told us to just HTFU and adapt.


Our belief is that once you are criminal or should I say have a criminal flag it has no affect on standings, but we have not yet confirmed that part on SISI it is on my to do list.

I was in that thread, actually many of us want actions to have consequences in this game and understand and accept the ramifications, we have made people aware of this and we are sure you evil people will find fun ways to use this, I can think of quite a few...

EDIT: As people take my words out of context so often, it is prudent for me to say that when I refer to evil people here in this post it is a compliment as in evil devious people and not a definition of anything against the player or anything else that could be used to define or belittle them.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#43 - 2017-01-11 10:22:58 UTC
Sugar Smacks wrote:
While checking my standings on my other character I happened to notice last month at the end of December I took a massive hit to a NPC corp. I got literally a -75% for pod killing a flashing yellow criminal in hi sec.
Now I am not talking about sec status loss, it was unaffected as he was flashing yellow. But to the corp in question my standing went from 0 to -7.50 in 1 transaction due to this.

Has this ever happened to anyone else? Has anyone ever lost standing to NPC corps for killing players?




Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Djsaeu
Doomheim
#44 - 2017-01-11 12:02:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Djsaeu
There is a way to raise your standing , go kill some clone soldier rats in low sec. Then take the tags that drop to a Concord station and trade them in. Doing that will raise your security level. Get the right tags and you can go from a -9.8 back to a 10 if you want. I know this because at one point I was at a -9.3 and got back to a 3.0 with them. There is a fee that goes with it but I do not remember what it is.



My bad, I got off topic. Sorry bout that/
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#45 - 2017-01-11 12:03:46 UTC
Djsaeu wrote:
There is a way to raise your standing , go kill some clone soldier rats in low sec. Then take the tags that drop to a Concord station and trade them in. Doing that will raise your security level. Get the right tags and you can go from a -9.8 back to a 10 if you want. I know this because at one point I was at a -9.3 and got back to a 3.0 with them. There is a fee that goes with it but I do not remember what it is.



faction standings not sec status

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

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#46 - 2017-01-11 13:47:10 UTC
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witchking42
Doomheim
#47 - 2017-01-11 15:53:04 UTC
Just don't pod kill in HIGH or LOW.

Do it all you want in NULL or WH.

Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#48 - 2017-01-11 16:21:11 UTC
witchking42 wrote:
Just don't pod kill in HIGH or LOW.

Do it all you want in NULL or WH.



i dont even think this applies to low either, i haven't noticed any faction standing loses when killing pods in lowsec, and ive killed a lot of pods

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#49 - 2017-01-11 16:47:15 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
witchking42 wrote:
Just don't pod kill in HIGH or LOW.

Do it all you want in NULL or WH.



i dont even think this applies to low either, i haven't noticed any faction standing loses when killing pods in lowsec, and ive killed a lot of pods


This only applies to specific corp standings and you have to kill the pod of a pilot in an NPC corp. For example, podding myself right now would lead to standings loss with Perkone, an NPC corp. Pod killing me a year ago would incur no corp standings loss as I was in a player run corp.
Dungheap
DHCOx
#50 - 2017-01-11 17:01:54 UTC
Sugar Smacks wrote:
While checking my standings on my other character I happened to notice last month at the end of December I took a massive hit to a NPC corp. I got literally a -75% for pod killing a flashing yellow criminal in hi sec.
Now I am not talking about sec status loss, it was unaffected as he was flashing yellow. But to the corp in question my standing went from 0 to -7.50 in 1 transaction due to this.

Has this ever happened to anyone else? Has anyone ever lost standing to NPC corps for killing players?



yes , i'm still negative to caldari provisions , for killing their flycatcher in AZN-D2 . null sec , he shot first , doesn't matter ...

while players in the 8 npc corp will always be involved in pvp , the standings hit to those corps is mostly meaningless , and i never worried about it , happily killing npc scouts and alts where ever found ..

the npc facwar corps have the same mechanic , and there's people who have boxed themselves in standing-wise by shooting those players . fortunately there's more ways than ever to repair standings , and only the horribly lazy or anal usually complain .

i do think it was a mistake for ccp to make existing npc corp into the mining fleet , so much fuss and preemptive whining could have been avoided . still , the affect on players is minimal , and the unlikely event an npc mining fleet actually cockblocks your pvp would likely result in a better story than just another killmail..


Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#51 - 2017-01-12 13:42:55 UTC
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
witchking42 wrote:
Just don't pod kill in HIGH or LOW.

Do it all you want in NULL or WH.



i dont even think this applies to low either, i haven't noticed any faction standing loses when killing pods in lowsec, and ive killed a lot of pods


This only applies to specific corp standings and you have to kill the pod of a pilot in an NPC corp. For example, podding myself right now would lead to standings loss with Perkone, an NPC corp. Pod killing me a year ago would incur no corp standings loss as I was in a player run corp.


being a smartbomber a few jumps from jita, ive killed a lot of npc player pods but still only noticed a sec status loss, ill double check but none of my standings are bad towards npc corps

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Shayla Etherodyne
Delta Laroth Industries
#52 - 2017-01-12 15:06:20 UTC
"Because of the tax rebate for non capsuleer mining corps DCM has decided to split in 2 different sister corps:
- DCM incorporated (or incpsulated Cool) is the capsuleer corp
- DC Mining is the non capsuleer corp"

Keep the players in DCM incorporated, move the NPC ships in DC Mining. Problem solved. We even have a in world reason for the split.
Etain Darklightner Agittain
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2017-01-13 16:43:03 UTC
Shayla Etherodyne wrote:
"Because of the tax rebate for non capsuleer mining corps DCM has decided to split in 2 different sister corps:
- DCM incorporated (or incpsulated Cool) is the capsuleer corp
- DC Mining is the non capsuleer corp"

Keep the players in DCM incorporated, move the NPC ships in DC Mining. Problem solved. We even have a in world reason for the split.



So all we have to NOT do is pod the individual player who is affiliated with an npc corp. Easily enough done.
Princess Adhara
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2017-01-13 21:23:53 UTC
Standings are feelings
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2017-01-14 16:05:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Tipa Riot
witchking42 wrote:
Just don't pod kill in HIGH or LOW.

Do it all you want in NULL or WH.


No, it does not matter where you pod a player in an NPC corp, you will get the standing hit with said corp regardless of space you where in. What you avoid in null and WH is the security status reduction in case of "illegal" aggression, but this is not the topic here.

I'm my own NPC alt.

Maekchu
Doomheim
#56 - 2017-01-14 16:14:33 UTC
They should just revamp the corp standings system. It's horribly outdated.
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