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Wanted: Your Refugees, Homeless, and Other Displaced Persons

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Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#21 - 2017-01-10 13:39:41 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Neph wrote:
EDIT: I would start by trying to get the Citizen POWs back to the State. They deserve to return to their old station in life, not to be bought and sold like so much cattle. Also, I suspect looking to their best interest would greatly increase your luck in any negotiations with the Caldari...


No. Caldari POWs will not be returned immediately to the State where they will be subjected to incorrect teaching on the Doctrine of Slavery, the Doctrine of Hell, and the Doctrine of Eternal Minmatar Subjugation and Destruction. My instructors will instead re-educate any Caldari in my possession on these and other matters, particularly the Doctrine of Slavery, to which Caldari seem to have a stubborn resistance.


The saying does go, the Caldari is a nation of workers, the Amarr is an empire of debtors. It'll be hard to work our aversion to enslavement out of us, so might I not suggest returning the good citizens in return for those former Caldari who are already now in unpayable debt?

~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~

"Orte Jaitovalte sitasuyti ne obuetsa useuut ishu. Ketsiak ishiulyn." -Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka

Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2017-01-10 15:56:31 UTC
Nauplius is a heretic, his methods do not belong to the Amarr Empire. Even if he tries to build a blend between Our Faith and Sabik Heresy, elements of heresy make his beliefs outlawed in the Empire.

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Arrendis
TK Corp
#23 - 2017-01-10 16:22:13 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
What place? His 'temple' got blown up.


The rites will be performed in my hanger, where the displaced persons will live as well.


I love this plan. Napkins is too cowardly to leave the security of a station, but he's gonna be 'inspirational' by having thugs beat, starve, and use hallucinogens on people (remember, he said no vitoc, not no drugs!) until they let themselves be brainwashed.

O how craven. O how pathetic.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#24 - 2017-01-10 21:41:40 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
What place? His 'temple' got blown up.


The rites will be performed in my hanger, where the displaced persons will live as well.


I love this plan. Napkins is too cowardly to leave the security of a station, but he's gonna be 'inspirational' by having thugs beat, starve, and use hallucinogens on people (remember, he said no vitoc, not no drugs!) until they let themselves be brainwashed.

O how craven. O how pathetic.


The time may come when displaced persons receive instruction and perform the rites of Naupliusism outside my hanger. This, however, is a time of reorganization and retrenchment; the horrific acts of violence inflicted against me and my people this month require us to spend some time to recover.
morion
Lighting Build
#25 - 2017-01-10 22:09:15 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
What place? His 'temple' got blown up.


The rites will be performed in my hanger, where the displaced persons will live as well.


I love this plan. Napkins is too cowardly to leave the security of a station, but he's gonna be 'inspirational' by having thugs beat, starve, and use hallucinogens on people (remember, he said no vitoc, not no drugs!) until they let themselves be brainwashed.

O how craven. O how pathetic.


The time may come when displaced persons receive instruction and perform the rites of Naupliusism outside my hanger. This, however, is a time of reorganization and retrenchment; the horrific acts of violence inflicted against me and my people this month require us to spend some time to recover.


who are these people you refer to as your own? " my people "
Go on
Arrendis
TK Corp
#26 - 2017-01-11 00:11:51 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
The time may come when displaced persons receive instruction and perform the rites of Naupliusism outside my hanger.


The time may come! Have you yourself so little faith in your faith that you have to hedge your bets? Does your red god approve of hiding away like a little mouse?

O how craven. O how weak.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#27 - 2017-01-11 12:32:59 UTC
morion wrote:


who are these people you refer to as your own? " my people "
Go on


Baseliner followers of Naupliusism. Mostly located among disaffected areas of the Gallente Federation, especially those areas subject to rampant Minmatar immigration. The Grand Temple to the Red God was build to give baseliner followers of Naupliusism a place to worship, including the performance of those rites otherwise illegal on their home planets.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#28 - 2017-01-11 16:36:08 UTC
So your people are xenophobes and bigots who run and hide away from taking responsibility for their own lives. Instead of owning their problems and working to correct them, they look for someone a little different, some 'outsider' to blame so they can keep wallowing in the very habits, ignorance, and inflated sense of entitlement that caused those problems in the first place. As long as you provide them a scapegoat, they're happy to huddle in their fear and resentment, and do nothing for themselves. And you encourage this.

O how craven. O how weak.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#29 - 2017-01-11 19:51:53 UTC
My stomach muscles ached after reading this thread.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#30 - 2017-01-12 00:06:05 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
My stomach muscles ached after reading this thread.


Please clarify the meaning of this statement and state whether or not you support or oppose the plan stated in the original post.
Graelyn
Aeternus Command Academy
#31 - 2017-01-12 12:39:01 UTC
I'm sure they're guffaws of support and admiration.

Cardinal Graelyn

Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113

Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#32 - 2017-01-30 04:58:42 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
morion wrote:


who are these people you refer to as your own? " my people "
Go on


Baseliner followers of Naupliusism. Mostly located among disaffected areas of the Gallente Federation, especially those areas subject to rampant Minmatar immigration. The Grand Temple to the Red God was build to give baseliner followers of Naupliusism a place to worship, including the performance of those rites otherwise illegal on their home planets.


I could not help but to follow this thread with some interest.

A lot has been said about this "Red God" and "Demon Queen".

Nothing like a little melodrama mixed in with megalomania. However I did manage to visit your "Grand Temple". It was magnificent in a provincial sort of way.

But what I found interesting was when I asked for a copy of the Holy Scriptures belonging to this "Faith."

Did you know Nauplius that Amarr Scriptures are written by those who are willing to make sacrifices. It is our burden as "the choosen". Whether the books are from the Theology Council or Sani Sabik almost all are made with the time honored tradition of flesh. There is no greater honor for an Amarr but to have their flesh removed to make another volume or copy of Scriptures. The flesh make the pages and the blood, the ink.

So your chapters, verses and books that I asked for from the nice assistant? Well at first I was impressed that they too were made of flesh. But they were not Amarr. Not "the chosen".

I was quite surprised that it was the flesh of slaves, the flesh of Matari Slaves used in your books. Their blood making the text of each volume.

Yes I have seen what befallen your followers.

So when you send you Caldari Puppets into the teaming masses of the State, will they be carrying dead Matari.

I remind you that it against both the teachings of Amarr Faith and the Sani Sabik to use anything other then the flesh and blood of a willing supplicant among the Amarr.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#33 - 2017-01-30 10:03:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Ayallah wrote:
I will provide you with one Kamiera if you can promise that your will give your sermons in person.

I would gladly accept any Kameiras. They should become reeducated by Minmatar Light Marine Sergeant sitting in my headquarters. He always wanted to reeducate "those poor bastards" as he says.

Quote:
spreading the word of Naupliusism

Naupliusism? I would rather choose O-Nanism.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#34 - 2017-01-30 12:43:30 UTC
Casserina Leshrac wrote:
Did you know Nauplius that Amarr Scriptures are written by those who are willing to make sacrifices.

...

I remind you that it against both the teachings of Amarr Faith and the Sani Sabik to use anything other then the flesh and blood of a willing supplicant among the Amarr.


I believe in ritual sacrifice, not self-sacrifice.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#35 - 2017-01-30 13:39:17 UTC
Never heard of this religion, Ms. Skalski. Is it a minmatar belief?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#36 - 2017-01-30 15:30:53 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
My stomach muscles ached after reading this thread.


I approve of you taking the time to get some exercise whilst reading the IGS. Crunches?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#37 - 2017-01-30 17:36:10 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Casserina Leshrac wrote:
Did you know Nauplius that Amarr Scriptures are written by those who are willing to make sacrifices.

...

I remind you that it against both the teachings of Amarr Faith and the Sani Sabik to use anything other then the flesh and blood of a willing supplicant among the Amarr.


I believe in ritual sacrifice, not self-sacrifice.


Then you show your ignorance what true sacrifice is. You are nothing more than murderer and thug.

If Blood is to be spilled for Rituals, then it must be from an Amarr to be consumed by an Amarr.

If other Blood is to be used, then the supplicant may offer his/hers as a replacement for that of an Amarr. While it may not have the potency of that of an Amarr, it's donation, it's sacrifice is more than enough to make up for the difference.

I note you wanted to me to read the passage from St. Junip and yet you chose only that one verse. I do believe there is more. But since this the Takmahl variant I would think St. Junip would have added more the final acts of two brothers fighting a beast.

You believed that the beat was Brutor. You believed Zakara was not the supplicant? Even after you edited it to fit your own narrative.

From my esteemed colleague: Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University

Quote:

I wouldn't have thought that passage would have related to any Brutor, given the age of the Takmahl empire, some 1500 to 2000 years before present, and that the Imperial fleet only encountered the Minmatar some 1000 years before present.

So, it probably relates to something else. In my opinion.


But this is discussion about sacrifice isn't it.

Not once did I say death was a means to an end of ritual sacrifice. Nor would it do any good for the subject to be Amarr. The Amarr flesh for any and all Scriptures comes from corpses much like a podded capsuleer. The Blood used for the ink drained from the corpse. Many tomes in the homes of some of the more established families of the Nigrum Optimus.

To use Matari Blood and Flesh in this way for your "cult" is an insult to many.

You are no Amarr nor worth of being called "Amarrian".

You pollute the Sani Sabik ways, charlatan and it no longer amuses me.




We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#38 - 2017-01-31 12:30:47 UTC
When Molok the Deceiver was brought before the Emperor in chains, the Emperor did not sacrifice himself upon the Altar of God.

The Emperor sacrificed Molok the Deceiver upon the Altar of God.

Ritual human sacrifice...part of the Amarr religion. Amen. Amarr Victor.
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#39 - 2017-01-31 14:31:59 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
When Molok the Deceiver was brought before the Emperor in chains, the Emperor did not sacrifice himself upon the Altar of God.

The Emperor sacrificed Molok the Deceiver upon the Altar of God.

Ritual human sacrifice...part of the Amarr religion. Amen. Amarr Victor.


Ah yes Molok. The stuff that parents teach their children to make them behave. Shall we explore further?

Quote:
Apocrypha of Blood 31:17

News of Molok's death did finally reach the ears of the Divine Emperor and his heart grew heavy. His Empress, wife, sister and lover knew when his moods grew dark inquired of the change. It was because Molok's House demanded [Ritual Death] so that his flesh and blood be added to their chronicles.

The Emperor was vexed because Molok was welcomed to sit near the throne. A position where the Emperor spoke of secrets and confidences.

Molok has used them against the people, the Holy Orders, and against the Divine Emperor. The Empress reminded the Emperor that such a person Amarr or Slave was not worthy of [God]. Divine Will dictated mortal law.

Thus it came to pass that Molok [the Deceiver] was taken from the Imperial City, killed by the Imperial Guard and his corpse left for carrion.

The Emperor then destroyed Molok's House, for they had sheltered [the Deceiver] , defied Imperial Law and the will of [God]. Their chronicles destroyed, their lands seized and cleansed and the family executed like the criminal they chosen to protect.


Here is my favorite from the Book of Labours.

Quote:
Labours 19:02

[The Deceiver] was dragged away from the capital. Not in chains in gold across the Altar of [God] and to Ascension [Ritual Sacrifice] but in bindings of hemp. He was not even worthy to wear the leather straps made from the flesh of Slaves. There was no ceremony when he died. The points of spears, the blade of swords cut into the flesh. He [The Deceiver] was left on the causeway into the capital for all to see the corpse that had been butchered and left to feed vermin.


Nauplius I called you charlatan, much like our historical figure here Molok. It seems to me there is a distinct parallel here. Do you see yourself as Molok reborn? If that is the case then that will not end well.

The tenants of the Sani Sabik Faith is to True to Oneself. Not to the blind will of false gods or heretics.

Creating books of Matari Flesh and giving them to Caldari POW's to turn them into converts shows you are no better than your favored champion Molok. A man given over to his own greed and ambition until he was mutilated and put on display.

*rolls down sleeve display unique nano-tattoo*

As you can see the Book of Leshrac is real work in progress.

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.

morion
Lighting Build
#40 - 2017-01-31 15:32:56 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
When Molok the Deceiver was brought before the Emperor in chains, the Emperor did not sacrifice himself upon the Altar of God.

The Emperor sacrificed Molok the Deceiver upon the Altar of God.

Ritual human sacrifice...part of the Amarr religion. Amen. Amarr Victor.


are you sure