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Memphis Baas
#21 - 2017-01-08 00:55:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Memphis Baas
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
Why isnt afterburner better?

Warpdrive gives huge signature and seems that warpdisrupters are common in wormholes?


An AB is designed to be used always-on, for situations where you need a bit of speed to kite PVE targets with predictable behavior.

A MWD, on the other hand, will drain your capacitor fast, so it's more of an "oh ****, get out!" module. Burn towards the gate/wormhole so you can escape back through it, burn out of a bubble so you can warp away; these situations require the huge speed, and if you're not successful within a second or two, you're dead, so the capacitor drain doesn't matter.

Your ship is a probing ship. You'll be spending the majority of the time sitting, cloaked or not, with your probes out, looking at the map. Thus, you don't need speed (AB or MWD) to perform your main role of probing out sites.

Therefore, the MWD is a better choice than the AB because it offers you some PVP survivability, whereas the AB does absolutely nothing for you.

The warp drive's huge signature is a balancing effect that was added by CCP on purpose. I don't know if you realize, but giving a ship 5x speed (from MWD) gives it 5x damage reduction, because weapons and missiles can't track anything that fast. The MWD would make you invulnerable to damage while it moves you out of range, which would be too powerful for a module. So they added the huge signature penalty so your ship still gets hit by weapons at about the same rate; this way the MWD gives you the advantage of being able to get away from a situation, but doesn't also make you invulnerable while you do so.

EDIT: Warp disruptors do NOT turn off your MWD; warp scramblers do. Look at the range of a warp scrambler; 7.5 - 10km? Your MWD makes you go 2 km/s; should be easy to get out and stay out of a scram's range, no? It's a couple seconds of gamble / skill at playing the game, don't let the guy get close.
Roel Yento
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2017-01-08 01:57:53 UTC
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
Oh, one question to all you who suggested fittings.

Why isnt afterburner better?

Warpdrive gives huge signature and seems that
warpdisrupters are common in wormholes?


With an afterburner, anyone that scrams or disrupts you will be able to stay on you unless they make a mistake. They will probably have a microwarp drive and you have no scram to shut theirs off. If they have an after burner then they will keep pace and probably have a webifier anyways.

If you have a mwd, you can get from can to can faster, burn back to a wormhole before they can lock and web you usually, burn out of a disruption bubble faster as well. A lot of relic and data sites in wormholes have you land 40km or more from first can so it also helps cut the time being exposed. The faster you can get to the cans and hack, the less time you will be exposed to ganks.

We normally have most of the sites in our wormhole chains scanned down already so you may never see probes to get an idea someone is looking for your site. Also most wormholers fly in cloaky ships so we can pop up next to you asap. If you are in a site that hasn't been scanned and you stay there a while, you can get combat probed in one or two scans too by someone that knows what they are doing. You will barely see the probes out. Many wormholers are patient and will wait long amounts of time watching until they are ready to attack.

All of that said, there are lots of quiet wormholes where you won't see activity, lots of lazy people that don't scan down all the sigs also so you might not get ganked. If you see someone or probes on dscan in a wormhole though, get back to a safe and bounce from safe to safe. If there is a high sec exit then might want to just head back so they don't camp you in.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2017-01-08 04:57:12 UTC
Trasch Taranogas,

I'm gonna say all of the info posted here is good, especially for more experienced players.

However advising you, a brand new player who is still learning the basics, to go into null or w-hole space is just plain wrong.


To find more exploration sites, look for high sec areas that are far from major trade and mission systems. Check star map and look for dead-end pockets and pipelines of systems with low amount of population (active players docked and also in system), low amount of jumps, low amount of ship / pod kills, low amount of NPC kills, etc..

Also be prepared to do a lot of traveling as an explorer. Set up various routes in different areas and have each route consists of 8 to 12 systems. If one route seems to be void of sites, travel to another route. Also run each route at different time zones to see when the best time is for each route. Eventually you'll know which route to go do no matter what time you log into the game.

Definitely train up your Core Fitting skills mixed in with ship support and career skills. Start with Tech 1 equipment and work your way into Tech 2 equipment. As an explorer the last thing you want is to be seen so speed, agility and cloak is your number one defense. I would not fit a MWD. It's a Powergrid / CPU hog that makes it very tough for newer players to do a good ship fit. Not to mention it inflates your signature making you much easier to lock.

Spend some time researching various topics of interest relating to your chosen career such as skills, ships, equipment and tactics. Doing google search and browsing the various Eve Online sub-forums here will help you gain lot's of good info. Definitely practice and build up experience with probing quickly, making Safe Spots and working with Directional Scanner before you attempt to explore high level areas such as Null / W-hole space.

Good luck to you, hope you have a long and rewarding career here.


DMC
Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#24 - 2017-01-08 10:31:39 UTC
Oh maan.

Once again, this forum delivers.

Thank you all for this insight.

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.

MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#25 - 2017-01-09 17:44:28 UTC
One other detail, when you have the scanning window up, between where the probes are listed and the known objects in space, there are two little drop-down menus. The rightmost one is for your ignored objects, and then there is one next to it, 'filtered' maybe (I'm running from memory, not at the PC). For two hours I was flying around and could not find anything and I was getting really annoyed until I noticed that I had somehow accidentally checked off items in that list and could not see them. (I think there are hotkeys for it which is how I screwed myself up)

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Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2017-01-09 19:18:50 UTC
Hi everybody!

Can you believe this ****!

Today I have, with my other character (explorer), done what
you all have thought me and urged me to do.
I have explored wormholes and lo-sec for over 4 hours!

IN MY IBIS!

During this time I got podded only ONCE.

Got caught in a warp-bubble, boom.

Otherwise it has been smooth riding, avoiding, bookmarking,
d-scanning, probing, hacking... you name it.

Unfortunately Ibis is not the best explorer and I took the cheapest
minimum fittings I could, so sorry, no big loots.

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.

Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2017-01-09 20:07:59 UTC
I mean Im happy!

This gave me something more valuable than loot.

Confidence.

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.

Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2017-01-09 22:44:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Trasch Taranogas
ergherhdfgh wrote:
Trasch Taranogas wrote:

Absolutely need cloak-device too.


One thing that I used to do when feeling overly paranoid is that I would make several safe spots on opposite sides of the solar system and then I would warp around between them and do my scanning while in warp. But if you just make a safe spot and then watch D scan you should be fine to sit in one spot.



Alaric Faelen wrote:
It's high sec. And just as overcrowded and milked dry high sec is, low and null are nearly empty and going to waste.

Get out of high sec and problem solved. Use your D-Scan....that's about all it takes. If something is in-bound, you warp out, cloak, whatever. Most of the time there will be no one for miles.
Fly something cheap so losing it doesn't matter- an evening raiding sites in null sec will pay for several ships.

Better yet, build up some skills and a small fleet. That way you can make use of whatever you scan down. Gas sites, Wormholes, combat sigs, etc. I ran relic/data sites for awhile but kept a gas huffing Venture handy for when I found a wormhole. It was just a side hobby to the content I was looking for...but broke up the boredom when I hit a dry spell.


These 2 posts are gold.

There really was lots of gas-sights in wormholes (and more wormholes).

(One more thing. Got scared of my own probes in D-scan,
kept warping around until I realised they were mine. What?)

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.

Taurean Eltanin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2017-01-10 09:25:20 UTC
One advantage of having a 'patch' of low activity space that you patrol is that scanning goes MUCH faster. Simply bookmark everything you scan down, using the first three letters of the sig in the bookmark.

For example: XYZ Gas Site

The next day, compare all the sigs that show up on your scanner to your list of bookmarks. 'Ignore' any sigs that you already have bookmarked, and delete any bookmarks that no longer have a corresponding signature (they've despawned). Now you only have to scan down the signatures that have appeared since your last visit!

This is so much faster than coming to each system blind, as you will currently be doing by dipping in and out of wormholes. This efficiency allows you to cover more systems in the same amount of time, increasing your chances of finding the kind of sites you want.

If you like reading about low sec piracy or wormhole pvp, you might enjoy my blog.

Gregorius Goldstein
Queens of the Drone Age
#30 - 2017-01-10 10:14:00 UTC
I passed a lot of relic and data sits in Solitude yesterday. Just look for systems with less than 500 jumps in the last 24 hours and you can hack one or two sites per jump.
Dupard Lemmont
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#31 - 2017-01-10 13:34:15 UTC
For lowsec exploration:
Hey if you want to be able to escape PVP encounters, fit 2 warp core stabilizers.

2 of these babies will help you warp away from 1 warp scrambler or 2 warp disruptors.

If you're quick enough you might escape the DPS without exploding.
Heck! They might even get you through some instalocking gatecamps!

I always fly stabbed ship when exploring and hacking. This has saved my ship several times from cloaky asteros magically showing up right behind me saying "BO!"

Inertia stabilizers / nanofibre internal structure relies on your reaction time. If you are busy hacking and dont notice that pesky pirate frig that just landed 20 km behind you - he will probably have time to active his warp disruptor and hold you. But stabbed - you can just warp out.

(PS, dont work against bubbles in nullsec)
Juss Karbuss
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2017-01-10 13:48:55 UTC
Amateur explorer myself too.. Wormhole exploring is like being a mouse going out your hole and hoping to get back with the cheese(which you have to find first ofc) without the cat noticing. Doesn't work always tho.:)

It is interesting and it gets your adrenaline pumping. :)

Maybe it was already mentioned here, but only go to the sites in WH, which have faction names in them - Gurista, Sansha, etc.. those don't have sleepers in them.
Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2017-01-10 16:09:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Trasch Taranogas
Thanks for advices.

I meant to just take a quick peak around in a WH.

Forgot to bookmark WH after entry!!!!

Thats why I ended up on this "all over the universe" trip
with my Ibis.

None the less, it was a good ride. Being hypersuspicious I
bookmarked a lot of safespots and warped between them
while scanning down every system/WH I ended up in.

Found mostly more WHs and gas-sites. 2 relic sites and 1
data site. Didnt wanna pick a fight with a Heron over relic and
the data site I couldnt hack. Second Relic-site something called
"Watchmen" jumped me and I barely survived.

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.

Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#34 - 2017-01-10 16:12:17 UTC
The warp-bubble was in my first visit in WH.

Was warping to make a safe-bookmark when I
suddenly was inside what looked like a sphere.

Before I read the text why nothing worked I was
blown up, 3 wolleys.

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.

Taurean Eltanin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2017-01-10 16:23:43 UTC
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
The warp-bubble was in my first visit in WH.

Was warping to make a safe-bookmark when I
suddenly was inside what looked like a sphere.

Before I read the text why nothing worked I was
blown up, 3 wolleys.


Sounds like you just met the locals. Some of us live in w-space full time.

If you like reading about low sec piracy or wormhole pvp, you might enjoy my blog.

Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#36 - 2017-01-10 16:58:13 UTC
Hmm.

I want to correct something.

I said I was podded, that seems to mean pod-killed?

I have to correct and say that they let me escape in my pod.

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.

Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#37 - 2017-01-10 17:00:18 UTC
Taurean Eltanin wrote:
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
The warp-bubble was in my first visit in WH.

Was warping to make a safe-bookmark when I
suddenly was inside what looked like a sphere.

Before I read the text why nothing worked I was
blown up, 3 wolleys.


Sounds like you just met the locals. Some of us live in w-space full time.



Read about that, in some recruiting. Why would you wanna live in a WH?

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.

Oraac Ensor
#38 - 2017-01-10 17:14:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Oraac Ensor
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
Hmm.

I want to correct something.

I said I was podded, that seems to mean pod-killed?

I have to correct and say that they let me escape in my pod.

Understandable. That would be the normal English meaning and was apparently the original EVE meaning.

My introduction to EVE was via the Atari boxed set which included an explanatory booklet wherein it was stated that being "podded" meant to be put into your pod (i.e. to have your ship destroyed) and that to have your pod destroyed was "pod-killed".

Player usage seems to have hi-jacked the expression from the former to the latter meaning.
Roel Yento
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2017-01-10 22:37:43 UTC
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
Taurean Eltanin wrote:
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
The warp-bubble was in my first visit in WH.

Was warping to make a safe-bookmark when I
suddenly was inside what looked like a sphere.

Before I read the text why nothing worked I was
blown up, 3 wolleys.


Sounds like you just met the locals. Some of us live in w-space full time.



Read about that, in some recruiting. Why would you wanna live in a WH?


For the game mechanics of living in wormholes, lots of isk too. Some people can't stand all the scanning but some of us love that you have to work for information.
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#40 - 2017-01-10 23:23:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Mephiztopheleze
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
Read about that, in some recruiting. Why would you wanna live in a WH?


Partly because every 16-24 hours, or whenever you decide to crash your wormholes, you get a brand new set of neighbours who may or may not be doing interesting neighbourly things which you may or may not be able to interestingly interfere with, as good neighbours do in J-Space.

Partly because it's fun, and easy enough, to simply plant a flag and *claim* a system for yourself and your buddies. So long as you can defend it, it's yours.

And partly because it's still a solid ISK faucet.

Roel Yento wrote:
Some people can't stand all the scanning but some of us love that you have to work for information.

+1,001.

Nothing comes for free in Wormhole Space. Not even knowledge of who else is in system with you at any given moment.

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