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Remove JF's

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#21 - 2012-01-20 00:07:20 UTC
zzlep Alduin wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
How did you go from "pimped up shiny fleets that run VG sites" to "JFs"? I thought the common way to move those ships around were carriers or orcas (since they're most likely fitted AND rigged)?


The link is exactly what you are whining about with incursion runners....

People have invested ISK to create a shiny fleet to run VG sites quicker

People have invested ISK to buy a Jump freighter to haul things quicker

Whats the bloody difference....


Bloody difference is that JF pilots cannot exploit the ships to jump directly in the hi sec system they want.

Incursions instead are exploited to circumvent their very reason to exist (to defeat the evil Sansha boss) in order to get endless farming.

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Lord Hedge
Doomheim
#22 - 2012-01-20 00:25:36 UTC
Simple answer. No. JF's cost 6+ billion ISK are defenseless move like a cow and require very expensive skill books to get into... Moving stuff in Carriers and Covert ops haulers through null takes to much time. Even with great planning these tasks can be a massive undertaking.


And it's not like everyone can just get a jump freighter. Think about it this way. You could sub your account for 14 months for the cost of 1 JF. And if you so upset about it. Then Train for one.
Zleon Leigh
#23 - 2012-01-20 00:33:51 UTC
Man are the pirates whining a lot lately...

Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital. CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day

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clamslayer
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-01-20 00:34:42 UTC
non judgement wrote:
clamslayer wrote:
non judgement wrote:
Yeah it isn't enough that the bloody things cost an arm and a leg and a fair amount of training. They shouldn't be allowed to jump around so much and so far.

Please nerf it back so you can only jump one system away and can't carry more than 50,000m3.
May as well remove them from the game.

I hate moving things around the universe.
Why make it so easy for us?

WHY!!?!


Oh wait.. you're actually complaining about incursions? Or are you complaining about the future nerf to incursions?



pfft eve is supposed to be a harsh game world that rewards team work...

Well... thanks for that tip clamslayer.


Why did you edit that spiel of bullshit about team work? cant stand by what you say?

anyhow eve is getting soft, its too easy to make ISK now, its too easy to move **** to 0.0, it really is a shame. at one point eve was unique because it was harsh, now it's becoming another watered down mmo.
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#25 - 2012-01-20 03:47:50 UTC
clamslayer wrote:
non judgement wrote:
clamslayer wrote:
non judgement wrote:
Yeah it isn't enough that the bloody things cost an arm and a leg and a fair amount of training. They shouldn't be allowed to jump around so much and so far.

Please nerf it back so you can only jump one system away and can't carry more than 50,000m3.
May as well remove them from the game.

I hate moving things around the universe.
Why make it so easy for us?

WHY!!?!


Oh wait.. you're actually complaining about incursions? Or are you complaining about the future nerf to incursions?



pfft eve is supposed to be a harsh game world that rewards team work...

Well... thanks for that tip clamslayer.


Why did you edit that spiel of bullshit about team work? cant stand by what you say?

anyhow eve is getting soft, its too easy to make ISK now, its too easy to move **** to 0.0, it really is a shame. at one point eve was unique because it was harsh, now it's becoming another watered down mmo.


I decided it was too aggressive and had almost nothing to do with the OP.

I agree with you about the too easy to make isk part. The moving stuff hasn't really changed that much.
CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#26 - 2012-01-20 04:27:18 UTC
Moved from "EVE General Discussion".

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L0rdF1end
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-01-20 10:43:33 UTC
Kaylyis wrote:
Lady Spank wrote:
10mins a day what.


6/10 for confusion factor


funny :)
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#28 - 2012-01-20 10:57:11 UTC
clamslayer wrote:


Why did you edit that spiel of bullshit about team work? cant stand by what you say?

anyhow eve is getting soft, its too easy to make ISK now, its too easy to move **** to 0.0, it really is a shame. at one point eve was unique because it was harsh, now it's becoming another watered down mmo.





post with your main.
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#29 - 2012-01-20 11:00:13 UTC
dont think JFs need a nerf, they are fine right now.
clamslayer
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-01-21 05:21:07 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
clamslayer wrote:


Why did you edit that spiel of bullshit about team work? cant stand by what you say?

anyhow eve is getting soft, its too easy to make ISK now, its too easy to move **** to 0.0, it really is a shame. at one point eve was unique because it was harsh, now it's becoming another watered down mmo.





post with your main.


This is my main
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#31 - 2012-01-21 13:14:29 UTC
clamslayer wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
clamslayer wrote:


Why did you edit that spiel of bullshit about team work? cant stand by what you say?

anyhow eve is getting soft, its too easy to make ISK now, its too easy to move **** to 0.0, it really is a shame. at one point eve was unique because it was harsh, now it's becoming another watered down mmo.





post with your main.


This is my main


Then you should probably not talk about things and places you don't understand. NPC corps and one man jita corps really don't make it seem like you've ever been to 0.0. You should try it sometime.
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