EVE New Citizens Q&A

So I know that at some point I'll probably buy omega. And when I do a virtual 30 day countdown begins, where I need to do everything I can to try and earn money to plex or as that probably won't happen at least to acquire a lot of money before I'm back to basics. So what should I do as not to waste time, and how much money should I start off with before I become Omega, so that everything is efficiently used?

When I log in, I check my industry and see that all 5 research slots are at least being used. Then I look at my PI.

I'm a wormholer so the next thing is checking out Tripwire. New static? Sweet. If there's any sites in my C1 I'll knock them down first.

Then I probe my highsec system. Usually I probe it's whole constellation, taking notes of any wormholes that are full of sites. I'll ask in corp chat and try to get a fleet of there's a C2 or C3 full. I'll try to get an escalation from highsec anoms too as I'm probing. All this while looking over my shoulder and we will take the PvP if we can find it.

That's generally what a day in the life looks like. The isk is secondary. With as much as I make, I feel like a PLEX is still very expensive. I wouldn't enjoy Eve if I had a 1b ISK demon over my head month to month. But to each their own.

You're treating a game like a job.

Ways to make ISK:

1. Slow and steady: mining, missions, high-sec exploration, planetary industry. These start at about 3 mil / hr and top off at about 10-20 if you have the Omega skills for the higher end ships. Null-sec ratting, anomalies - 30-100m / hr is possible.

2. Do you feel lucky: exploration (low, null, wormhole), scamming, corp theft, suicide ganking. You could go weeks with nothing, and then hit the motherlode and be set for life.

3. It takes money to make money: trading, daytrading in Jita, some T2 manufacturing / invention. These require knowledge of the game (what ships and modules are popular), as well as starting capital (approx. 100m is a good starter sum, profit is typically 1% - 10%, can be more if you get lucky or prescient about patch notes).

For the sake of the in-game economy, which is very important to the health and popularity of the game, CCP has it set up so it takes effort to get anything big. Newbies, and especially alphas, won't have access to the ships and modules required. Solo players won't have access to the richer null space.

And grinding enough ISK to make a PLEX / month is very difficult, because they don't want you to do it; you're looking at working the game like a job 6-8 hours / day for 30 days, to get the equivalent of $15 total payout.

Thare was a great post in Armored Warfare about grinding through "cancer".

A sought after module could only be achieved by playing artillery. So after
some calculation a player found out that playing a tank he liked and then
converting the skillpoints to desired module using ingame gold (bought
for real money) was better.
He would rather pay money than play artillery for 16 cents an hour.

Obviously everyone is different, so the following is based mainly how I would feel if trying to actively PLEX. It may or may not be useful to your situation:

Trying to actively PLEX is a short trip to burnout. It turns the game from a game to a grind, leaving little time left to actually enjoy it. So the best forms of income to PLEX with; and still enjoy the game, are passive income sources. Ones that generate income/saleable resources even while you are offline.

For an individual player, the most accessible passive income source is planetary interaction. You can generate resources 24/7 and then sell them on the market, leaving you time to actually have fun.

With each account having 3 character slots, it's possible to train all three slots for near max PI in a short period of time (less than 1 month training per character) and then generate income from all three.

In terms of amounts of ISK from PI, I've read anywhere from 1-3 Billion a month from one account.

I do PI about as passively as possible and generate about 400-500 million per character each month.

Not something you can setup to PLEX with in just one month, but you can certainly get part way there with just 1 character and then grind the rest if you can stand the job nature of that.

Don't concern yourself with trying to make a PLEX yet. You will likely just make the game a very low-paying job rather than fun for you. Forget about isk, it will come.

Pick something that seems interesting to you, go Omega, and try it. If you are interested in something like fleet pvp, no you are not going to be 420noscopeyolopwnmastauberkilla immediately. You will start by being a tackle frigate or scout or some such. If something like trading interests you, you will not start as daddywarbuckstycooncanbuyislands, you will look up possible micro-trades on evecentral.org tradefinder and do trades in a frigate for 100k isk, not millions. Same with any area.

Try things. Fun over isk. Jump in.

Your right there, and everyone else who commented. Guess I should just enjoy myself really. Thanks for that. I shouldn't be hassling myself about virtual money that means nothing.


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I'd recommend looking up pi and watching tutorials on it day one.
Even with just one account in a few days you can have a 4-5 planets and pretty much take it all to 3-4 and have decent colonies.
I started late and ran our of time but when set up it's passive income that supplements anything you do. If you put a little time in every few days it just prints money.
It might not be huge like the pros who have multiple accounts and characters doing it but every little bit helps and it's gonna make a mil an hour maybe for small scale stuff. 1m an hour isn't huge no. But that's 24m a day and 720m a month for 30days of basically jist flying out to move some stuff from one planet and making sure it's all running around the clock. then you can play normally and in theory that cuts a billion you need from a plea down to 200-300m in ideal conditions.
If you do more characters even better.
I can't even set up my p2-p3 planet right now and i can't export it but I have probably 30-40m sitting on a planet in p1. For a few days of just running the most basic stuff. That's not bad considering im not even currently omega. If i hadn't taken so long to set it up I could have had some p3 running right now and when it ran out it would sit until I could omega and export it.

It depends on what you want to do in the end. Is it plexing your account or do you have some greater goal in mind?

PI is a nice passive income, exploration is not even dependent on being Omega. Mining is slow and steady but if they feel like farmville, online casino, and boredom incarnate, respectively then there is no point in planning to do them. I see a lot of players trying to reach the Nirvana of 'free game' and are willing to sacrifice all fun of play to get there.

Find what you like, if you can do it as an Alpha? Then go ahead and do so. If you need Omega and you actually DO enjoy doing it then you won't begrudge CCP getting a bit of money for the product they help provide (secret is, WE are the content more than anything coded).

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I've seen a number of people in Rookie Help who appear to have the idea that PLEX is the only way to become Omega and will go off and buy a PLEX with real money, not to sell it but to activate it for a month of Omega when they could save money by simply subscribing for $15, or better yet taking advantage of the 3/6 month current offers for Alphas which are $10/month or even a year at $99 which gets your Omega subscription down to $8.25.

I find it hard to imagine that a billion ISK will ever be worth less than $8 to me.

I know the lure of "free" subscription draws people in to try EVE, but they're going to be disappointed when they find out the amount of work involved, or worse they're going to actually try to do it and quit in exhaustion after a few weeks.

Even selling PLEX for ISK is mostly a bad idea for beginners as they really don't need a billion ISK to get started and (IMHO) it rather cheapens the experience and makes it a lot less rewarding in the beginning.