Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I was with my cruiser and two(2) paying(OMEGA CLONES) customers came with a battleship+battlecruiser and killed me for no reason, when I was clearing a mining asteroid belt. They are pirates. I do not have access to battleship technology to fight back, or greater ORE mining ships to easily make up the loss. It took long time to get resources just to buy a cruiser with ISK because of not having access to the better mining vessels as an alpha. So 3 things; Free players(alpha's) are apparently just there to get destroyed by paying customers, Can't get the fighting technology(i.e. Battleship) to have a fighting chance against paying customers, Cannot Mine using the better ORE mining ships therefore replace what is lost fairly reasonably.

How about you, your company, does this? Give complete access to the regular Tech Tree, for the faction that the Alpha Clone belongs to and all ORE mining vessels, to be more competitive with the paying Customers. The paying customers in return will get automatic Boost to all Mining Ships+ about 25% more boost to everything on a fighting ship, so they are a bit harder to compete with but not so invulnerable as it is now currently in the game.


For now,because of cannot compete with the Paying customers, attacking me as pirate in ".4" spaces, not even the lesser security level spaces; I will stop playing. Hopefully you will change the game up some more to be fairer to free players to build themselves up and also protect themselves from Paying customers.

Thanks for listening.

I was going to post something else, decided it wasn't worth the effort.
Have fun in another game, doesn't seem Eve was for you.

to be fair, if you are omega with mining barge, you will still die to 2 players anyway

You lost a t1 cruiser to a widow (a T2 battleship) and a Legion (a t3 cruiser). I would put good money on them having extra support either cloaked or waiting to warp in if needed.

A solo battleship with maxed supports would probably have died to that, never mind an alpha piloted t1 fit BS with poor support skills.

You were also in lowsec. Whoever told you that lowsec is not the 'lesser security spaces' was lying to you.

Yes, the people that killed you were pirates. What's the problem with that? You were in dangerous space, there's a reason you get a warning popup on jumping into lowsec.


Also, mining for isk is a terrible thing to do to yourself. Especially if you only have a venture. I suggest exploration or missions instead, at least until you have some isk to your name.



Now. On to your actual idea.

With full ship access, I and many others would no longer have any reason to pay a subscription fee at all. That is not going to do very much for the longevity of the game. You'd also still have the problem of people who know the game better than you coming in with superior numbers and ships and killing you anyway.

Or for focus, "I do not have access to battleship technology to fight back". You don't NEED battleship tech to fight back. I've seen rookie ships (or are they corvettes now?) kill battleships before. Maybe not solo but that's the nature of eve. Just because you do not yet have a full grasp on the concepts of the game and you still think bigger = better does not mean the game is broken.

I are poor poor alpha and NEED titan and at least access for zee shadow insta-muder-death-kill-everything drine to be competitive.

Give mah full free titan and super-dooper access, much betterererer for poor poor newby in lesser space. Alpha is goodererererer than omega.

How about no?

Alphas are an unlimited free-trial. You aren't meant to be competitive. Sucks i know.


Welcome to the meat-grinder. o7

Yep. Not worth the effort....

Alpha is an Unlimited Trial and it working as intended... one could think this can be a simple observation.

OP welcome to EvE and all of it's crazy parts including those who consider these forums a part of the habitat.

Although I do not agree with how some have expressed their opinions I do have to say that they are essentially correct.

Alpha clones were never intended to be fully "competitive" with the Omega clones in the game, they were and in fact are intended to be an extended way for players such as yourself to get more experience in the game than was offered by the previous 14 day free trials.

Even if CPP gave you access to all of the ships in your chosen race you would still not be competitive because of the skill point limitations of the Alpha clones.

Even as an Omega clone you are always at a disadvantage to someone for some reason. This character has over 100 million sp, yet there are others around the game that probably have over 200 million. I make about 1 billion ISK a month with all my ventures and actions in the game which gives me an advantage over some, yet there are people I know in the game that make many billions of ISK every month so they have an advantage over me.

I could go on with this but the essential thing to learn here is that with no matter how long you have been in this game or how much ISK you have their will always be someone that is better than you are in some way or another. Suggests you forget everything you know about computer games because very little of it will apply here. Approach EvE like it was something you have never done before in your life and you will do much better in your future ventures.

Oh, if you stay in the game suggest that you find a group of like minded players to join up with to do things.