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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#21 - 2017-01-05 06:02:29 UTC
I clear the icons manually every now and then, usually between fights.

BH gets most of my attention during a fight, though I do keep an eye on the watchlist for anyone key that is being shot, so I can lock them and take action. But I don't really notice the icons during a fight.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#22 - 2017-01-05 08:03:48 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
I clear the icons manually every now and then, usually between fights.

BH gets most of my attention during a fight, though I do keep an eye on the watchlist for anyone key that is being shot, so I can lock them and take action. But I don't really notice the icons during a fight.


Yeah as it should. It is just one of the things I notice when we are free-burning and pay attention to the d-scan again.

The broadcast history is a blessing in hectic situations when you have more fleet members than you can lock.

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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#23 - 2017-01-05 13:00:43 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
you shouldn't be using the WL to see that **** you should be locking from your BH. the WL should only be used as a back up in case a vital ship screws up and forgets to broad.



I'll give a counter point. If you're in a small gang of 14 ships, but only 7 pilots all dual boxing - the WL is the only way the guy dual boxing the logi ships is going to get things done. The other 4 dual boxers just don't normally have the time to broadcast while fighting 2 ships.

In this case the logi pilots normally work in complete silence (comms and broadcast history) while the other 6 guys talk over each other in semi coherent chaos.



Just pointing out there are several correct ways to do the logi stuff. What works for 100 dude fleets (your way) may not be optimal for all fleets.

The WL gets used quite a bit in PVE fleets also. I'm not sure how exactly, but I think the incursions ninnies have some overly complex way of organizing logistics.





But when you are using the WL for that they are not broadcasting and if they are you have the history. Your point is irrelevant



My example my be irrelevant, but my point (there are several ways to do the logi stuff) is not. The example (which I still feel is relevant as it's just an example) is just there to put into context that there are other PVP MOs besides the 100+ blob things. The OP is kind of based on 100+ fleet operations. I don't do the logi thing often, so I didn't actually weigh in on the merits of the idea, just put some alternatives out there for the discussion.

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#24 - 2017-01-05 15:29:08 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
....shortened a bit....The OP is kind of based on 100+ fleet operations. ...


Not quite. The watchlist shows up 15 fleet members and get to 10. I am more of a small gang kinda gal and my Kirin(s) do serve me well.
Anything more that 15 would get too confusing for myself.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2017-01-05 15:36:19 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
What, remove the people I am supposed to be keeping a special eye on from the watchlist every time I clear broadcast history?

Are you insane?


that's what i thought at first too you need to train reading comp to V then you need advanced comp to at least III you see OP doesn't have writing coherence trained so its a bit tough.


what op wants is when you clear broad cast history he also wants the broadcast icons cleared from the WL

...and is also saying that the broadcast for reps icons in the watchlist will never go away on their own. This hasn't been my experience--I've noted them to disappear after about 30 seconds or so. I'll admit, however, that I haven't been in a proper fleet for about a year, so perhaps it has changed between then and now?

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#26 - 2017-01-05 15:47:51 UTC
Reaver, you can hop on SiSi and ask someone to fleet you and do a broadcast. Then clear the broadcast history and see the icons stay or ask a corp member.

Sorry Lugh if I write weird stuff. I can sometimes not even follow myself.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2017-01-06 06:38:31 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Reaver, you can hop on SiSi and ask someone to fleet you and do a broadcast. Then clear the broadcast history and see the icons stay or ask a corp member.

Yes, it does do that now. I think it's a bug. It didn't use to do that, and I can't think of any reason it should now. It's not a feature. It's a liability for some fleets--incursion fleets especially. Apparently they've got a thing going on now in which pilots who are no longer being shot at use a different kind of broadcast to clear the old one. They shouldn't have to do that just to prevent the entire fleet from acquiring a rep broadcast icon on the logi watchlist.

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Shu t'Me
#28 - 2017-01-06 07:44:49 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
elitatwo wrote:
Reaver, you can hop on SiSi and ask someone to fleet you and do a broadcast. Then clear the broadcast history and see the icons stay or ask a corp member.

Yes, it does do that now. I think it's a bug. It didn't use to do that, and I can't think of any reason it should now. It's not a feature. It's a liability for some fleets--incursion fleets especially. Apparently they've got a thing going on now in which pilots who are no longer being shot at use a different kind of broadcast to clear the old one. They shouldn't have to do that just to prevent the entire fleet from acquiring a rep broadcast icon on the logi watchlist.

The explanation I was given is that it's to let logi know they can stop wasting cap on you.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2017-01-06 18:40:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Shu t'Me wrote:
The explanation I was given is that it's to let logi know they can stop wasting cap on you.

I've done logi for incursions. They're fully cap stable. It doesn't hurt if they over-rep. We just stop repping the last ship when the next one starts getting hit. It doesn't matter if the icon disappears in 5 seconds or 5 minutes, as long as it goes away so we can actually use the watchlist for its intended purpose--which is basically to assist FCs and logi.

If they have to send a broadcast to get rid of the old broadcast, that fills the broadcast history with spam. We wouldn't need to clear broadcast history if we didn't have to spam it with cover broadcasts.

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