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When NPCs become detrimental to PVP

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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#461 - 2017-01-05 08:54:12 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
The toxic community of Eve is the real reason why people roll their eyes when I tell them I played it - or used to play it (PC is crashing from it anyway and it's way down the fixit list), and this toxic community is damaging it.

Not surprising to perceive the community as toxic if you hang out in the AG channel all day. It really is a depressing place and people do get angry if they feel powerless because the fail all day, constantly, without a break.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#462 - 2017-01-05 08:55:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
It's like Lucas Kell and Veers had a baby and it's this thread.

Don't worry. I'm not gonna argue with anyone.
It's spicy ramen at work time for me.


I agree, and I should have backed off and just ignored these two imbeciles hours ago. On that note, I'm out. No, Salvos, Herzog, this isn't a victory for you, I'm afraid, this is just me refusing to provide you further content. Also, I'll be ignoring all your future posts since they're all so consistently full of ****.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#463 - 2017-01-05 08:57:13 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
It's like Lucas Kell and Veers had a baby and it's this thread.

Don't worry. I'm not gonna argue with anyone.
It's spicy ramen at work time for me.

Do.. not.. summon.. them..!!!
Salvos Rhoska
#464 - 2017-01-05 08:58:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
At no point in this thread, even once, have I made any diagnosis of Remiel.
Nowhere have I stated or even implied that he might suffer from autism or clinical depression.

Based on Remiels incessant behavior of insulting, disrespecting and abusing other posters, I issued the advice of seeking psychiatric care, because his does not comprise normal, civil, adjusted behavior. If I where to encounter someone with a bleeding wound, or an abnormal growth, I would advise them too to seek medical care.

He, however, has himself made repeated claims of others having autism (including towards me), as have Techos, Shae, And Duck.
Techos has also made the direct implication that Remiel suffers from severe clinical depression (again, as an unsolicited, unprofessional diagnosis).

He himself has now "claimed" he has autism, punctuating the statement with more insults, abuse, and disrespectful behavior, as well as libel, inorder to excuse or justify his behavior.

This is the pinnacle of offensiveness. Trying to use the severe and debilitating psychiatric conditions of people that suffer from them but try to live as normal lives as possible, as a shield for his insulting, abusive and disrespectful conduct towards other posters here.

I know people with autism and clinical depression. I have worked with, as a nurse, with patients with these conditions (and many others). None of them conduct themselves as Remiel has. Furthermore, none of them would condone how Remiel has behaved, much less as justified by the debilitating conditions that they do their best to live with.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#465 - 2017-01-05 08:59:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
It's like Lucas Kell and Veers had a baby and it's this thread.

Don't worry. I'm not gonna argue with anyone.
It's spicy ramen at work time for me.


I agree, and I should have backed off and just ignored these two imbeciles hours ago. On that note, I'm out. No, Salvos, Herzog, this isn't a victory for you, I'm afraid, this is just be refusing to provide you further content. Also, I'll be ignoring all your future posts since they're all so consistently full of ****.



I won't spill the beans about myself as much as you have beyond this. So let me just say, considering both our pasts and what we were dealt in life and what we have become, I defeated you a long time ago.

I'll give you a little pro tip for now: it helps when you can see yourself while you are doing something so you don't do the very things you rail against.


As for you other nefarious nabobs, have a nice day and let's all hope this new content - you know, "content" like when someone is ganked it's also called content - will benefit everybody. I think it will.


Edit: Remiel I actually do feel some pity for you. What I see here is you spewing a lot of insults and vitriol and wondering why, over a game topic. You are easy to get into this state. if you are suffering from depression, perhaps you are having a bit of a disconnect between the way you are interacting with people in the forums and said depression. When I find myself getting on like that, I start to wonder why. What's the point?
While it may be fun to break your balls, I really don't want to find out you went and did something rash because of this game or what happens in these forums. You see unlike gankers who can break someone so bad they leave the game and then say "well they could not emotionally handle it", I always asked "well if that person could not handle it and chimped out, what does that make you, the catalyst (no pun intended) to that effect"? And you know what would happen? Those posts got deleted. So I see a lot of projection here. There are a lot of people who "can't handle it" who like to do things to other people in some manner that they can push their buttons.

You would not be the first "ganker aligned" player to be found to having some issues. Here's a dark secret: there are some in AG who, because of battling gankers, have managed to get to know a few of them, found they had issues, and helped them. I won't name names because the names I know, I should not. But that's what I have found. When I say "toxic" I'm not really saying "evil".

Whatever the case, I see similarities between you and I so if you need to vent drop me an Eve mail.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#466 - 2017-01-05 09:03:12 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
At no point in this thread, even once, have I made any diagnosis of Remiel.

He, however, has made repeated claims of others having autism, as have Techos, Shae, And Duck.
Techos has also made implications that Remiel suffers from severe clinical depression (again, as an unsolicited, unprofessional diagnosis).

Based on Remiels incessant behavior of insulting, disrespecting and abusing other posters, I issued the advice of seeking psychiatric care, because his does not comprise normal, civil, adjusted behavior.

He himself has now "claimed" he has autism, punctuating the statement with more insults, abuse, and disrespectful behavior, as well as libel, inorder to excuse or justify his behavior.


I have never said anyone is autistic or anything else. I have not indicated that Remiel suffers from depression, exactly the opposite in fact. I am tempted to call you a liar...but then maybe English is not your forte. I'll just say you are very bad are reading comprehension and leave it at that.

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#467 - 2017-01-05 09:04:59 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
At no point in this thread, even once, have I made any diagnosis of Remiel.

He, however, has made repeated claims of others having autism, as have Techos, Shae, And Duck.
Techos has also made implications that Remiel suffers from severe clinical depression (again, as an unsolicited, unprofessional diagnosis).

Based on Remiels incessant behavior of insulting, disrespecting and abusing other posters, I issued the advice of seeking psychiatric care, because his does not comprise normal, civil, adjusted behavior.

He himself has now "claimed" he has autism, punctuating the statement with more insults, abuse, and disrespectful behavior, as well as libel, inorder to excuse or justify his behavior.


I have never said anyone is autistic or anything else. I have not indicated that Remiel suffers from depression, exactly the opposite in fact. I am tempted to call you a liar...but then maybe English is not your forte. I'll just say you are very bad are reading comprehension and leave it at that.


Definitely a liar. I can actually link the post where he suggested I seek clinical help. He can't link the post where I called anyone autistic unironically though.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#468 - 2017-01-05 09:09:28 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
As for you other nefarious nabobs, have a nice day and let's all hope this new content - you know, "content" like when someone is ganked it's also called content - will benefit everybody. I think it will.

You must have mist the posts where we speculated how this can be used for evil. This will mainly benefit people who care about game mechanics and manipulate them to kill carebears. I can see how this may suck for lowsec PvPers who have to grind standing, but there is no issue for gankers, on the contrary. My scout is actually my main and he already has very good standing with at least one of the relevant corps in my region. Will probably grind for the rest once I found out how to use them in my favour and if it is worth it.
Salvos Rhoska
#469 - 2017-01-05 09:13:54 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Definitely a liar. I can actually link the post where he suggested I seek clinical help. He can't link the post where I called anyone autistic unironically though.


Go ahead and link it.

Ive explained it here:

Salvos Rhoska wrote:
At no point in this thread, even once, have I made any diagnosis of Remiel.
Nowhere have I stated or even implied that he might suffer from autism or clinical depression.

Based on Remiels incessant behavior of insulting, disrespecting and abusing other posters, I issued the advice of seeking psychiatric care, because his does not comprise normal, civil, adjusted behavior. If I where to encounter someone with a bleeding wound, or an abnormal growth, I would advise them too to seek medical care.


So you have been claiming other people have psychiatric conditions "ironically"?
Including me?

Is that your justification?
Salvos Rhoska
#470 - 2017-01-05 09:16:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Teckos Pech wrote:
I have never said anyone is autistic or anything else. I have not indicated that Remiel suffers from depression, exactly the opposite in fact. I am tempted to call you a liar...but then maybe English is not your forte. I'll just say you are very bad are reading comprehension and leave it at that.


You implied in context that Remiel suffers from severe clinical depression or psychiatric emergency in your post to Herzog, where you implied he is trying to cause harm to a person that you claim suffers from it here:

Teckos Pech wrote:
Making a joke out of depression and people suffering psychiatric emergencies is not funny at all. Now maybe Herzog was being serious, but I don't see anything in Remiel's posts to indicate he is in psychiatric distress so my first thought is that Herzog was being a douche, but I thought I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and make it a conditional statement.

Since I have a loved one who has suffered through major depression I have to say, if Herzog was making a joke I think a permanent forum ban would be in order as it is no laughing matter.


When you called me a "douche", was that a "joke" or serious?
You have not answered this.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#471 - 2017-01-05 09:18:50 UTC
Justification? The implication that I need justification to treat trash like trash is hilarious. I'm going to write that down in my diary.

"Dear Diary. Today, a piece of trash cried about me treating it like a piece of trash. Wut do FC??"

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Salvos Rhoska
#472 - 2017-01-05 09:22:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Justification? The implication that I need justification to treat trash like trash is hilarious. I'm going to write that down in my diary.

"Dear Diary. Today, a piece of trash cried about me treating it like a piece of trash. Wut do FC??"



Yet you are the one trying to justify your incessant insulting, abusive and disrespectful behavior towards other people behind a claim to suffer from autism.

This is utterly unacceptable in that it denigrates and misrepresents the actual IRL efforts of people suffering from psychiatric conditions in their attempts to overcome their disabilities to live as normal lives as possible. None of them would justify insulting, abusive and disrespectful behavior such as yours, regardless of their condition, or your claimed one.

You have directly stated that others suffer from autism, including me, specifically.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#473 - 2017-01-05 09:23:08 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
I have never said anyone is autistic or anything else. I have not indicated that Remiel suffers from depression, exactly the opposite in fact. I am tempted to call you a liar...but then maybe English is not your forte. I'll just say you are very bad are reading comprehension and leave it at that.


You implied in context that Remiel suffers from severe clinical depression or psychiatric emergency in your post to Herzog, where you implied he is trying to cause harm to a person that you claim suffers from it here:

Teckos Pech wrote:
Making a joke out of depression and people suffering psychiatric emergencies is not funny at all. Now maybe Herzog was being serious, but I don't see anything in Remiel's posts to indicate he is in psychiatric distress so my first thought is that Herzog was being a douche, but I thought I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and make it a conditional statement.

Since I have a loved one who has suffered through major depression I have to say, if Herzog was making a joke I think a permanent forum ban would be in order as it is no laughing matter.


When you called me a "douche", was that a "joke" or serious?
You have not answered this.


He's actually not, he was talking about people that suffer from it in general. Like when you say "you" as a generic pronoun that could apply to anyone. In case you weren't paying attention to the paragraph that you think indicates that Teckos was trying to diagnose me, please reread the most important sentence, which I've bolded for your little mind's benefit.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Salvos Rhoska
#474 - 2017-01-05 09:26:29 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
He's actually not, he was talking about people that suffer from it in general. Like when you say "you" as a generic pronoun that could apply to anyone. In case you weren't paying attention to the paragraph that you think indicates that Teckos was trying to diagnose me, please reread the most important sentence, which I've bolded for your little mind's benefit.


He implied in context and extension, that you suffer from clinical depression or a psychiatric emergency.

You and Teckos have both been insulting people throughout this thread, repeatedly.
Did you ever once stop to consider that the target of your abuse may suffer from severe depression, and the effect of your abuse upon them?

Clearly not. Since it hasn't stopped your insulting, abusive and disrespectful behavior.
Nor did it stop you specifically from claiming I have autism.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#475 - 2017-01-05 09:27:45 UTC
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Due to several pages of off topic posting, I will be closing this thread instead of trying to make sense of all the off topic posts. Thank you.

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