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EveOnline Wiki farewell D: v.v

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Mobius Snowpaw Infinity
Red Dog Mine
#1 - 2017-01-04 06:47:51 UTC
so it seems the most helpful website for tips and info is to be canned v.v info wiki's are awsome ,such a shame Sad

https://wiki.eveonline.com/
Scipio Artelius
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2017-01-04 06:51:32 UTC
Hello 2015, is that you?






* technically I think the wiki was offlined in 2016, but it hadn't been maintained properly for quite a long time before that.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2017-01-04 07:01:26 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Yeah, it's a shame CCP did that. I created a thread with a link allowing access to Evelopedia after CCP discontinued it.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=472997&find=unread

Evelopedia via The Wayback Machine

To access Evelopedia link, right click and select 'Open In New Tab'

(Note : 'The Wayback Machine' is used to access info previously contained in Evelopedia. After Evelopedia opens, continue doing the 'Right Click / Open In New Tab' to access links within Evelopedia. Links to external sites such as Eve Survival, Eve Files, etc can be accessed with URL copy and paste.)



DMC
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
#4 - 2017-01-04 07:12:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
#5 - 2017-01-04 07:14:20 UTC
Mobius Snowpaw Infinity wrote:
so it seems the most helpful website for tips and info is to be canned v.v info wiki's are awsome ,such a shame Sad

https://wiki.eveonline.com/


EvE Uni's Wiki says, "Hello!'.

Just Add Water

Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#6 - 2017-01-04 07:29:36 UTC
Come back after a break with new projects and got kinda rusty. How good is uniwiki?

"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#7 - 2017-01-04 19:01:04 UTC
Jeremiah Saken wrote:
Come back after a break with new projects and got kinda rusty. How good is uniwiki?
Good enough that CCP use it for reference.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#8 - 2017-01-04 19:05:40 UTC
Not having an official source of documentation for the game is a mistake.

But CCP is literally not competent enough to make one so they stopped trying.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#9 - 2017-01-04 19:07:34 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Jeremiah Saken wrote:
Come back after a break with new projects and got kinda rusty. How good is uniwiki?
Good enough that CCP use it for reference.

In preference to their own wiki no less.
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#10 - 2017-01-04 21:39:51 UTC
This is probably an appropriate thread to share some information .. Eve University is looking for wiki editorial staff after CCP dumped the responsibility on them.

E-Uni Internal Forum Post

Relevant Tweet

How to donate ISK

Just like evelopedia, anyone can edit the Uniwiki. I've always felt that both of them complimented each other well. Now that Evelopedia is gone, certain parts of the Uniwiki look very dated and exposed. The shoe is on the other foot now.

This is endgame exploration if you can help maintain the wiki. Blink

@lunettelulu7

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2017-01-04 22:08:20 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Lulu Lunette wrote:
This is probably an appropriate thread to share some information .. Eve University is looking for wiki editorial staff after CCP dumped the responsibility on them.

E-Uni Internal Forum Post

That link has the following message : The requested topic does not exist.

Lulu Lunette wrote:
Just like evelopedia, anyone can edit the Uniwiki. I've always felt that both of them complimented each other well. Now that Evelopedia is gone, certain parts of the Uniwiki look very dated and exposed. The shoe is on the other foot now.

This is endgame exploration if you can help maintain the wiki. Blink

I agree, especially since they got a lot of their info from Evelopedia in the first place. Not to mention just like Evelopedia, CCP isn't updating them on current changes being made to the game. By the time players find out about those changes and update the wiki, new changes are added to the game thus making Uniwiki become more outdated.


DMC
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#12 - 2017-01-04 22:13:57 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:


That link has the following message : The requested topic does not exist.



I thought that link might not work. It's supposed to go to the link that Eve Univsersity tweeted. Same one! Smile

@lunettelulu7

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#13 - 2017-01-05 00:19:28 UTC
Crying shame that a game as info-intensive as Eve doesn't have an official source for up to date information. This game is a lot about who shaves hairs or weighs smoke better to get the competitive edge, after all. If it were me (and it's not of course), I'd create something like ISD or Mercury crew of player volunteers to continually manage and update a game documentation site. And freely throw PLEXes, ships, skins, AUR, officer mods, whatever around to the dedicated ones. We're just odd enough that some of us would enjoy being master librarians/archivists/information sorters.
Rain6637
Simulacra and Simulation
Dracarys.
#14 - 2017-01-05 01:12:08 UTC
The players can do it better anyway. The forum should be next on the chopping block imo. That begs the question where would we communicate, then? Uh gee I don't know
Rain6637
Simulacra and Simulation
Dracarys.
#15 - 2017-01-05 01:13:36 UTC
Conceptually the correct answer is out there in the wild internet where we have a chance of being relevant and heard, compared to tucked away on forums.eveonline.com
Scipio Artelius
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2017-01-05 02:14:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Khergit Deserters wrote:
... I'd create something like ISD or Mercury crew of player volunteers to continually manage and update a game documentation site...

That's exactly what did exist.

There used to be a long sticky thread here in GD calling for volunteers to join. Unfortunately, the application process was so long winded that it was no surprise that team sort of died; and several people I know of that applied just never heard back at all.

I wish the official wiki would return. Unfortunately, while wikis thrive in an open, crowd-sourced environment, CCPs approach was much too closed for it to really work.
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#17 - 2017-01-05 03:03:06 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
The players can do it better anyway. The forum should be next on the chopping block imo. That begs the question where would we communicate, then? Uh gee I don't know


Nothing makes me feel worse about being an Eve Online player than reading r/eve.

I don't think you're wrong, I'd also assume the Eve Forums are the next thing to get the Evelopedia treatment.

The players do what better?

@lunettelulu7

Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#18 - 2017-01-05 06:32:38 UTC
Lulu Lunette wrote:
Just like evelopedia, anyone can edit the Uniwiki. I've always felt that both of them complimented each other well. Now that Evelopedia is gone, certain parts of the Uniwiki look very dated and exposed. The shoe is on the other foot now.

Ok how do I do that, because I've already found some articles that need to be updated. My main was in Euni for a while.

"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville

Rain6637
Simulacra and Simulation
Dracarys.
#19 - 2017-01-05 07:41:35 UTC
Lulu Lunette wrote:
Rain6637 wrote:
The players can do it better anyway. The forum should be next on the chopping block imo. That begs the question where would we communicate, then? Uh gee I don't know


Nothing makes me feel worse about being an Eve Online player than reading r/eve.

I don't think you're wrong, I'd also assume the Eve Forums are the next thing to get the Evelopedia treatment.

The players do what better?

There's a sort of rule that says whatever game mechanics you create, your players will deconstruct it and overcome them. Along those lines, I think players can also be expected to figure out the best way to do things. I think this includes informing other players of your game mechanics.

Crowdsourcing.

When you have a large pool of people who are interested in your game, or your product, they will want to communicate. You can provide a free forum because it's something everyone else does, or you can make room for players to come up with something for their own purposes. I think the e-uni wiki is a great example of this.

So I guess in defense of CCP X you could interpret the lack of an official wiki as a smart move. It saves time and money for the company but also makes room for players to take ownership of something related to the game.

r/eve

Forums.eveonline isn't just secluded from the rest of the internet. It's also crippled by the politics of the game. EVE-O is multipartisan and will never compare to the cohesiveness of forums of different player groups.

Depending on your affiliation you will probably dislike one of the few major sites that come to mind. But they're all incredibly successful from a neutral standpoint and they're more great examples of players doing it better.

I guess it's harsh to say EVE-O could be killed off. At a bare minimum I think it could serve as an announcement platform and maybe recruitment center for new players.

IT'S NOT LIKE DEVS TALK TO US ON HERE ANYWAY. lol
Rain6637
Simulacra and Simulation
Dracarys.
#20 - 2017-01-05 07:44:34 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
... I'd create something like ISD or Mercury crew of player volunteers to continually manage and update a game documentation site...

That's exactly what did exist.

There used to be a long sticky thread here in GD calling for volunteers to join. Unfortunately, the application process was so long winded that it was no surprise that team sort of died; and several people I know of that applied just never heard back at all.

I wish the official wiki would return. Unfortunately, while wikis thrive in an open, crowd-sourced environment, CCPs approach was much too closed for it to really work.

I suspect some of them heard back, they just couldn't tell us.

Cough. http://goo.gl/rD7IAv
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