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AFK idea (actually not , its copy from DCUO)
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Tepir
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-01-20 00:55:36 UTC
In Dc Universe Online one who is afk gets {away} next to his name , and one who is afk for 2 hours get booted from Server. This way Server gets increase in perfomance... and no more sleepers in local ^^ just an idea....
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#2 - 2012-01-20 00:57:52 UTC
…which solves what, exactly?
Tepir
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-01-20 01:02:39 UTC
Tippia wrote:
…which solves what, exactly?



guy who sitts afk cloaked in some system for longer than 2 hours he gets booted by server . Server perfomance will increase and 0.0isk income will increase , with it people just might care less about thers ships and come to lowsec , on my gate Cool everybody win LolLol its a chain reaction P
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#4 - 2012-01-20 01:05:18 UTC
Nothing a random macro can't avoid. Everyone uses macro's , didn't you hear? Big smile

Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#5 - 2012-01-20 01:06:18 UTC
Yes… but what are you trying to solve?

I can tell you now: the guy sitting AFK in your system will not show up as AFK, and the guy showing up as AFK will most likely drop a whole heap of ships on you very very soon…
Ai Shun
#6 - 2012-01-20 01:08:19 UTC
Tepir wrote:
Tippia wrote:
…which solves what, exactly?



guy who sitts afk cloaked in some system for longer than 2 hours he gets booted by server . Server perfomance will increase and 0.0isk income will increase , with it people just might care less about thers ships and come to lowsec , on my gate Cool everybody win LolLol its a chain reaction P


Translation: Bots can run 24/7.

Because let's face it. If he is AFK he is no risk to you. If he is not AFK, you can stay docked and be a wussy or you can take the risk, be aware and play the damn game.
Tepir
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-01-20 01:12:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Tepir
Tippia wrote:
Yes… but what are you trying to solve?

I can tell you now: the guy sitting AFK in your system will not show up as AFK, and the guy showing up as AFK will most likely drop a whole heap of ships on you very very soon…



im not the case here m8... i live in lowsec as my entire corp . All i want is more people get trough lowsec....

He doesnt need to show afk... as i know there are people who when they go to sleep leave them self cloaked in local to prevent -0.9 carebears to make isk . All though i like his tactic (which i did alot of times) its starting to ruin my gameplay =p less and less people visit lowsec... i mean i able to run lvl 5s in my dread and/or carrier with closed dscan lol.... again its not about my isk.. . im secured for long years to come . Its about people not comin to lowsec...

Give them moar isk... meybe they will come
And if somebody goes to sleep with cloakie alt in local he will get dced after few hours

AND WE Alll know that one guy when he sleep can easily cover entire constelation with cloakie alts if he rly want that .
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#8 - 2012-01-20 01:23:06 UTC
Tepir wrote:
im not the case here m8... i live in lowsec as my entire corp . All i want is more people get trough lowsec....
Your suggestion doesn't particularly address that wish.
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All though i like his tactic (which i did alot of times) its starting to ruin my gameplay =p less and less people visit lowsec.
Your causal chain is lacking.
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And if somebody goes to sleep with cloakie alt in local he will get dced after few hours
No, they won't, because if he wants to disrupt people in space, it'll be trivial for him to not trigger the game's AFK timer. Likewise, for those who do indeed intend to attack, they can trivially activate that flag. Either way, the flagging won't make any difference.
Vigrioth Stoneclaw
Daskak Verskaffers
#9 - 2012-01-20 01:40:28 UTC
AFKing isn't what makes losec into lolsec.

Just saying, dude...
Elessa Enaka
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-01-20 01:54:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Elessa Enaka
If you want people in low-sec follow my simple plan for increased traffic


  1. pop some interbuses and then put up your own POCOs
  2. set tax rates to something really low like 1%
  3. anchor cans in nearby high-sec systems advertising low-tax rate PI
  4. most importantly, be selective in choosing your targets and don't wtfpwn everyone that comes through or they'll decide that the risk isn't worth taking. If you lull them into a false sense of security, they will potentially spread the word of safe, low-tax, low-sec PI thereby increasing your traffic and allowing you to have more targets.


If you're smart about it, you should be able to get at least a few "gimme" kills per week and as a side effect, passive income from the PI taxes

AFK cloaking prevents botters from botting, it doesn't prevent people from going through low-sec

/thread

Devour to survive, so it is, so it's always been Eve is a great game if you can get past all of the asshats....
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-01-20 01:56:19 UTC
Tippia wrote:
…which solves what, exactly?


Which solves the constant need to ask in corp chat "XYZ, are you here?"
AFK Cloaker
Matari Exodus
#12 - 2012-01-20 02:20:26 UTC
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Tepir
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-01-20 02:36:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Tepir
i don see whats the fuss about than. IF its easy to avoid afk detection and set up scripts who will move mouse at same time every 2 hour which ccp cant detect etc... why opose this update ? AFK detection is implemented in many other games . Nothing we can lose her in my opinion. We can only get. Is it increase in server perfomance or people get ritcher and bolder and start moving more than 10 jumps from ther base .


About this not effecting lowsec its for the lulz. because people more and more time have to spend to earn for plexes (im speaking about normal people who do anomalies and stuff) and even more time to earn for ships to defend thers space . And less and less time and money they got for luxury trips to lowsec to bash pirate camps .

I miss anti pirate camp bashing fleets.... I miss to get hot droped inlowsec by pl or w/o... Even hydra guys doesnt jump from highsec with thers 2+b tengus ....

Whats up with that? what have changed in last 4-5 months ? ISk income has decreased to 0.0 guys . Simple as that. Was it from 0.0 nerf, or new sleeper policy where would one guy from one pc put an alt in every system in constelation... and one corp can decrease income to some allinace by 50-60% directly proportional at the same Visitors to lowsec decreased! now dont say me this inst the case because it is .

IF some guy before needed to spend (example) 5 hours to make plex, and additional 1 hour to make him self a bc fully fitted . He had couple of hours for pvp , which if he didnt get near to home he didnt care about that easy to make bc and tryed his luck in lowsec!

The case as it is now... due the sleepers in his home system he needs 2 days to make isk for plex and additional 5 hours to earn for that bc . Now he will not be so careless about his hard to earn isk and he will not try his luck in lowsec. He will use his assets to defend his systems only . ITs that simple.

In my opinion one of many ways to re populate lowsec is to decrease number of sleepers .
In my opinion to return people from high sec incursion to 0.0 and make 0.0 more appealing to them is to decrease number of sleepers .
Why would anybody return to 0.0 from very profitable high sec and quite safe isk farming to 0.0 where every system have sleepers in it ? Simple as that.... Decrease number of sleepers in 0.0 and you will get population back .

AFK detection is one good way of getting this . IF anything afking will get harder .
Xuai
Tacitus Sicarius
#14 - 2012-01-20 02:44:04 UTC
This will never happen...
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#15 - 2012-01-20 02:49:29 UTC
Tepir wrote:
i don see whats the fuss about than. IF its easy to avoid afk detection and set up scripts who will move mouse at same time every 2 hour which ccp cant detect etc... why opose this update ?
Because it serves no purpose. It doesn't solve anything. It most definitely does not address the issue you're having.
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AFK detection is one good way of getting this . IF anything afking will get harder .
Why does being AFK need to be “hard”?
Tepir
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-01-20 02:59:04 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Tepir wrote:
i don see whats the fuss about than. IF its easy to avoid afk detection and set up scripts who will move mouse at same time every 2 hour which ccp cant detect etc... why opose this update ?
Because it serves no purpose. It doesn't solve anything. It most definitely does not address the issue you're having.
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AFK detection is one good way of getting this . IF anything afking will get harder .
Why does being AFK need to be “hard”?




you didnt read, it will serve a purpose


You are not just afking.. you are disabling Aliiance income... that needs to be hard . You make more damage in isk than if you killed a POS . That has to be harder to do than just leavin your alt afk.
Probebly Afk Cloaking
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-01-20 05:27:05 UTC
brb, don't boot me if it takes to long
Lexmana
#18 - 2012-01-20 06:47:19 UTC
Tepir wrote:
i don see whats the fuss about than. IF its easy to avoid afk detection and set up scripts who will move mouse at same time every 2 hour which ccp cant detect etc... why opose this update ?

You know, currently everybody does not run bots (true story) but with your suggestion everyone will have to do it to play the game. And soon everybody will have bots for everything. AFK-cloak bots will be the first step to bots on-line.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#19 - 2012-01-20 07:39:50 UTC
Tepir wrote:
You are not just afking.. you are disabling Aliiance income... that needs to be hard .
It is hard. You have to make the entire alliance agree to have their income disabled by a single person. If they choose not to, you're stuck.

If the alliance chooses to go along with your scheme, then that's their choice and their problem — it's not something you can burden the AFK player for.

Oh, and as mentioned, your idea won't actually solve this (non-)issue.
Tepir
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2012-01-20 07:56:55 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Tepir wrote:
You are not just afking.. you are disabling Aliiance income... that needs to be hard .
It is hard. You have to make the entire alliance agree to have their income disabled by a single person. If they choose not to, you're stuck.

If the alliance chooses to go along with your scheme, then that's their choice and their problem — it's not something you can burden the AFK player for.

Oh, and as mentioned, your idea won't actually solve this (non-)issue.



why there are players all around important 0.0 systems than for ? than to decrease the income to players and with it the corporation players belong to, and with it the alliance corporation belong to ? what you say have no logic, you want it to have logic but it doesnt . Having afk player in every system where ratting is worth doin is way to decrease certain alliance and/or corporation power. Same as killing POS . This as it is now is way to easy . And please dont tell me i am wrong because i am not. If not disable it atleast make it harder .

And this would make sleeping in enemy's important systems harder .


Alliance whos members cant afford plexes and ships to defend ther own space, whos players cant mine for next capital ship build by sleeping alts in local are damaged.

And i know its part of the game and i must agree. All i am sayin its way to easy to decrease Big alliance power . Make it harder...
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