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Jita undock

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Fek Mercer
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2017-01-04 00:53:08 UTC
If you've ever looked at all the ships undocking from jita, you'll notice a good percentage of them slowly aligning into the wall and warping through it. I propose either:

Extruding the hangar door to have it protrude from the rest of the structure. Essentially remodeling the caldari station type.

moving the gates or the station to have 99% of traffic align to a sensible vector. Also has the effect of having incoming traffic being in roughly the same area as outgoing traffic.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#2 - 2017-01-04 01:20:50 UTC
Why?
Shu t'Me
#3 - 2017-01-04 07:21:11 UTC
According to lore, warp drive takes you slightly out of phase with reality. This is why you can warp through planets, suns, and such without crashing into them.

There is no problem here.
Fek Mercer
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2017-01-04 09:00:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Fek Mercer
it looks bad. come on look at all those freighters turning into the wall and clipping through it and tell me it doesn't look bad
Lugh Crow-Slave
#5 - 2017-01-04 09:20:48 UTC
Nope doesn't look bad just looks like eve.

I would say jita undock is one of the most amazing sights in eve
Fek Mercer
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2017-01-04 13:08:19 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Nope doesn't look bad just looks like eve.


wut
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#7 - 2017-01-04 13:37:20 UTC
Fek Mercer wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Nope doesn't look bad just looks like eve.


wut

I agree with Lugh.

Tthe Jita un-dock is a visual representation of everything EvE is about, players you and about doing what they want, ships getting shot at and yes that includes ships warping through a station which fits precisely with the lore of how EvE warp drive works.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#8 - 2017-01-04 13:48:58 UTC
The only thing that looks wrong with this would be the crappy halfassed beards Lugh and Fek are sporting. Shave that crap off!

Donnachadh - you're close to nappy beard land - I'm watching you.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#9 - 2017-01-04 14:00:28 UTC
Moving stargates potentially messes with peoples bookmarks, same with messing with stations. For something as trivial as making it 'look good', doubt its gonna happen.

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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2017-01-04 15:55:36 UTC
Fek Mercer wrote:
it looks bad. come on look at all those freighters turning into the wall and clipping through it and tell me it doesn't look bad


Looks allright to me.

The one I see as odd are the sideways power-slide warping freighters but that's an entirely different can of worms.
Fek Mercer
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2017-01-05 02:40:04 UTC
The truth is i made this thread to test the following. A simple QoL idea couldn't possibly be a bad idea right? No.

Every single thread gets shot down by one of about the same 5 people saying the weakest argument I've ever heard, and then gets dogpiled by everyone else falling over eachother to agree with them.
I could say something as simple as fixing a typo made somewhere, and I'd probably get told "It adds character to the game" followed by at least 5 people furiously nodding thier heads up and down and reminiscing about typos long past and how they miss various typos that were in the game for ages and that they should come back.

Making suggestions in this forum is like shooting a cannon at a wall, problem is that wall is a 20ft thick block of titanium.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k0SmqbBIpQ
Lugh Crow-Slave
#12 - 2017-01-05 04:10:55 UTC
our job is to tell you what is wrong with your idea. Your job is to refine it into something that works.

Just because something is QOL doesn't mean implementing it isn't detrimental. If you want an echo chamber of people just agreeing with you I'm sorry.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#13 - 2017-01-05 04:12:04 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
The only thing that looks wrong with this would be the crappy halfassed beards Lugh and Fek are sporting. Shave that crap off!


This beard was a gift from my grandfather! I will never shave it off
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#14 - 2017-01-05 05:44:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Zhilia Mann
Fek Mercer wrote:
The truth is i made this thread to test the following. A simple QoL idea couldn't possibly be a bad idea right? No.

Every single thread gets shot down by one of about the same 5 people saying the weakest argument I've ever heard, and then gets dogpiled by everyone else falling over eachother to agree with them.
I could say something as simple as fixing a typo made somewhere, and I'd probably get told "It adds character to the game" followed by at least 5 people furiously nodding thier heads up and down and reminiscing about typos long past and how they miss various typos that were in the game for ages and that they should come back.

Making suggestions in this forum is like shooting a cannon at a wall, problem is that wall is a 20ft thick block of titanium.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k0SmqbBIpQ


Eh. Look. I like good ideas that make the game better. Making the game better is worth the time and effort to do right and deal with whatever the adverse consequences might be. Hell, a really good idea has consequences that can't be predicted; emergent gameplay and all that.

This, however, wasn't a good idea. I'm not sure if it even qualifies as QoL in general -- maybe yours but certainly not mine and apparently not many other people's.

Years ago, long enough that I'm not going to even bother finding it, I wrote a very long post on why the person proposing the change has to first make a solid case on why things should change in the first place, then actually propose a change, then head off counterarguments. If you can do all that convincingly, congratulations, you win F&I. Simply getting frustrated that your idea isn't immediately considered good is no way to convince anyone of anything. I for one don't even see the issue you're describing as an issue at all. Is it for you? Is it for others? Make your case!

Edit: this was a pretty good post. This was too, even if the conclusion was basically wrong (and ok elia should have done more homework). Most posts in this forum are crap. But there are a few good ones.
Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2017-01-05 05:47:55 UTC
Just replace it with a keepstar and be done with it. Then have the Serpentis crash a couple vanquishers into it. What could go wrong?

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal

Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#16 - 2017-01-05 12:49:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Daichi Yamato
This isn't a qol idea. It has no tangible gain, no positive change to game play at all. Instead it has the issue of messing with players game.

If i start a thread saying there should be dinosaurs in eve and it gets shot down, its not because everyone's a ****. Some ideas are just bad.

This is what a good idea might look like: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=49217

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs

Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
#17 - 2017-01-05 13:12:54 UTC
if it won't make my BMs useless then i think it's ok, but honestly i don't think it's necessary.

Just Add Water