EVE General Discussion

Tell me, honestly, do you think your discussion in this thread was conducted in a manner "befitting a grown adult"?

Im really looking forward to this.

FTFY

Of course everywhere is open to everyone, I never said otherwise. However an individuals readiness to deal with the increased threat of player interaction in low sec is dependent on their personal knowledge, skill, resources, awareness, and decision making ability.
The game places no arbitrary value on this, nor should it. That's player choice, that defines a players experience within the framework of a player driven game.



I think I may be misreading this? I know I don't need the NPC's, I said as much. Because of this, I profit in low sec based on my knowledge and ability to function there without the support (beyond the existing sentry mechanic) of NPC's.
That profit is hard won. It will become easier perhaps with this new mechanic. The debate ( from my perspective anyway) is whether it should be easier. Making it easier to profit in low sec vs. requiring greater awareness to profit in low sec. I tend towards the latter. My opinion only of course.



Aaaaaaand the entire bloody point of this thread was to consider, discuss and debate to what extent this participation is to occur. Specifically, as in the OP the ramifications of the New NPC mining support fleets, and their particular programmed responses.
Just because CCP put something into the game, does not mean everyone has to agree with it. It does not mean we are forbidden to challenge it or suggest alterations and/ or alternatives.

Pretty much what this forum is for really.

You're not interested in how other forum posters are treated, you're interested in you, and playing the victim doesn't change the fact that my misquoting your posts is absolutely no different from your misrepresentations of mine. Report away, it's clear that this particular thread has served its purpose of raising awareness of the issue to people that matter, and people that matter are going to do with that what they will, including exploiting the **** out of this flawed mechanic to their advantage, not just in a way that can be considered emergent gameplay, but in an unbalanced way that only a select few players can, if for no other reason than the potential to do so.

Interesting. Thanks for the link.

You have also demonstrated a refusal/inability to read and keep up and subsequently form any kind of educated opinion on the topic at hand, so why the **** should I care what you have to say or think about me? Maybe you should read more of the posts that these two have posted in open hostility to me BEFORE I became hostile to them. Oh, wait, you don't want to, because you'd rather be hostile to me as well, as you were in your own first post on this thread. GG.

I don't even care anymore. I've already cancelled my sub and as long as the mechanic remains this way, so too will my sub. Let the carebears have whatever EVE becomes, it's what they're gonna get eventually anyway. I'm just sick to death of the wilful ignorance on display for the sole purpose of seeing me, and other PVP'ers, on the back-foot. That's what they're driving for, a 'win', as if this was posted for the purpose of competing instead of meshing out balanced mechanics that benefit everyone. I'm honestly sick of the bile that results from this mentality of 'us vs them' and I have way too many real life issues for this to become one of them.

I started this thread because I noticed a mechanic in the game that demonstrably favours a select group at the expense of others, and quite possibly has the chance to become a detriment to PVP, especially solo PVP. Other people have recognised this as well, and that's enough for me, let them carry the flame. It's the wilful ignorance of others that has burned me out at this point, their spite towards me just because I raised an issue that effects PVP, their open arrogance... I'm done with it all, dude. But no one has made me lose more hope for humanity as a whole, and made me want to douse myself in petrol and light myself on fire, than Salvos. He is so infuriatingly petulant and lacking in self-awareness that I'm pretty sure if he has any offspring to speak of, we're all completely doomed. I can't deal with him, and I know if I post anything, he'll be there replying, even if I put his posts on ignore he'll be there for others to see.

There is too much hand-holding in this game now. There has been for a long time, and it's become this way by adding tiny little bits of hand-holding at a time. And we've all noticed it. You've noticed it too, I know you have. When is enough enough?

I said up top I've cancelled my sub, but I've already made a new Deteis alpha toon to take full advantage of this mechanic at the expense of as many carebears as possible. If people won't pay attention in this thread, I'll make them pay attention in the game. The hard way.

Get rekt. Your arguments failed. Your conduct failed. Your will failed.

You cant handle the heat, yet you have perpetually ignored and insulted everyone in this thread pointing out the errors in your position and arguments, thereby bringing it upon yourself as a consequence of your own choices.

I'm glad I was the one to ram your own behavior down your own throat till you choked on it.

Go ahead and play on an Alpha. Nobody cares.
You utterly destroyed what little remained of your reputation here.

The changes/plans are already in the pipeline. Deal with it.

We will discuss them in due time here, again, but not in a disaster of a thread like this, headed by an OP who's only recourse and behavior was ignoring and insulting anyone that disagreed with him.

Even here on GD, I have never seen a OP so systematically and perniciously self-destruct their own thread and reputation, by incessantly, vitriolically, insulting and/or ignoring every participant that disagrees with him.

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The very fact that you are now infact going to join an NPC corp on an alpha, in the very corp you had issue with, speaks volumes to the fact that there never was an issue in the first place.

Hurrduurr

"If you dont play the game like I do, you aren't playing it!"

"Only what I do in EVE is worthwhile!"

"Salvos is a stupid, ignorant, illiterate meany with cognitive capacity below a 3yr old, is a wet dog turd etc etc!"

"I am a victim! I didnt do nothing wrong! Its not my fault everyone else is an idiot and can't read!"

"Halp, the NPCs are hurting me :((((!"

"Only my opinions are valid! I insult and ignore everyone elses"!

The above pretty much sums up this thread.

Who is Veers? Are you now trying to insinuate I am someone else?

Go play on your alpha in an NPC corp already.
Go become exactly that which you so espoused to hate.
Its a fitting end for such a hypocrite.

No.

Its just the only word you actually read in the entire thread.