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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#1 - 2017-01-04 04:22:59 UTC
So I have been flying logi lately and I have a tiny OCD thing and I'll just ask the logi pilots of you what you would think if your watchlist would be cleared too when you clear your broadcast history, so you don't have everyone in need of armor or cap or whatever and you can see those nice health icons coming up again when they are needed?

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Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2017-01-04 04:38:39 UTC
'Meh.'


I never use those little icons personally, either because x number of dudes aren't on the 15 manz watchlist or just because I pull straight out of the broadcast history

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#3 - 2017-01-04 05:19:14 UTC
I do too, I just noticed that those icons never go away and when you only fly with a small group and you have everyone on your wachtlist, it gets distracting after a while.

Must be an OCD thing.

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Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2017-01-04 05:43:49 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
I do too, I just noticed that those icons never go away and when you only fly with a small group and you have everyone on your wachtlist, it gets distracting after a while.

Must be an OCD thing.




'It would be nice, but I've gotten used to it so don't really notice anymore' category, I think. If they could be synced, sure.

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The NPE IS a big deal
Lugh Crow-Slave
#5 - 2017-01-04 06:33:35 UTC
you shouldn't be using the WL to see that **** you should be locking from your BH. the WL should only be used as a back up in case a vital ship screws up and forgets to broad.

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Shu t'Me
#6 - 2017-01-04 07:28:06 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
you shouldn't be using the WL to see that **** you should be locking from your BH. the WL should only be used as a back up in case a vital ship screws up and forgets to broad.

This.

WL doesn't start indicating anything until after they've already started taking damage. Alert pilots hit their broadcast as soon as they're yellow boxed, which is before they start taking damage.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#7 - 2017-01-04 07:36:22 UTC
not only that but there is a good deal of lag in the WL it wont show damage or a broadcast for some times up to 3 seconds

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2017-01-04 07:50:10 UTC
What, remove the people I am supposed to be keeping a special eye on from the watchlist every time I clear broadcast history?

Are you insane?
Lugh Crow-Slave
#9 - 2017-01-04 07:54:57 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
What, remove the people I am supposed to be keeping a special eye on from the watchlist every time I clear broadcast history?

Are you insane?


that's what i thought at first too you need to train reading comp to V then you need advanced comp to at least III you see OP doesn't have writing coherence trained so its a bit tough.


what op wants is when you clear broad cast history he also wants the broadcast icons cleared from the WL

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#10 - 2017-01-04 08:39:54 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
What, remove the people I am supposed to be keeping a special eye on from the watchlist every time I clear broadcast history?

Are you insane?


No, hell no. What I mean is the icons next to the three important (well it's four but I can only do so much) bars on the watchlist.

Anything else would be unwise. I also like to have my mates pre-locked as soon as we land, so I can apply reps without having to wait for broadcasts.

When the fight is over and you go back and clear the last broadcasts of your history the icons are still there and you may notice someone on your watchlist is calling (did call earlier) for reps that have been applied by that time.

So a very simple "clear history" removes the "need reps here right now" icon, not your buddies.

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Lugh Crow-Slave
#11 - 2017-01-04 09:27:20 UTC
Why would you assume one of them just called for reps? You should be able to tell by looking at your broadcast history. If anything they should just remove the icons from the wl probably be easier on ccps end anyway

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#12 - 2017-01-04 10:43:12 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Why would you assume one of them just called for reps? You should be able to tell by looking at your broadcast history. If anything they should just remove the icons from the wl probably be easier on ccps end anyway


I would be happy with that.

The reason I would assume this is that the icon is still there and with the way I arranged my UI windows and the watchlist, which is close to my d-scan, I see an icon that I noticed earlier but would assume would go away at some point.

While listening to my alliance members and rep-kiting my fleet mates, things get overlooked and on the way back I can pay more attention to UI icons.

I am sorry to bother you with this and you may only understand if you have OCD (because that one pixel that has the wrong color and drives you sleepless and nuts..)

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Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2017-01-04 10:49:06 UTC
Lugh's just being Lugh.

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
Lugh Crow-Slave
#14 - 2017-01-04 11:23:18 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Why would you assume one of them just called for reps? You should be able to tell by looking at your broadcast history. If anything they should just remove the icons from the wl probably be easier on ccps end anyway


I would be happy with that.

The reason I would assume this is that the icon is still there and with the way I arranged my UI windows and the watchlist, which is close to my d-scan, I see an icon that I noticed earlier but would assume would go away at some point.

While listening to my alliance members and rep-kiting my fleet mates, things get overlooked and on the way back I can pay more attention to UI icons.

I am sorry to bother you with this and you may only understand if you have OCD (because that one pixel that has the wrong color and drives you sleepless and nuts..)



take some Pexeva and better organize your UI

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#15 - 2017-01-04 14:42:18 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
you shouldn't be using the WL to see that **** you should be locking from your BH. the WL should only be used as a back up in case a vital ship screws up and forgets to broad.



I'll give a counter point. If you're in a small gang of 14 ships, but only 7 pilots all dual boxing - the WL is the only way the guy dual boxing the logi ships is going to get things done. The other 4 dual boxers just don't normally have the time to broadcast while fighting 2 ships.

In this case the logi pilots normally work in complete silence (comms and broadcast history) while the other 6 guys talk over each other in semi coherent chaos.



Just pointing out there are several correct ways to do the logi stuff. What works for 100 dude fleets (your way) may not be optimal for all fleets.

The WL gets used quite a bit in PVE fleets also. I'm not sure how exactly, but I think the incursions ninnies have some overly complex way of organizing logistics.


elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#16 - 2017-01-04 17:58:36 UTC
Thank you Serendipity!

And sometimes you have to leave the room and come back after a couple of minutes and you see the rep broadcast and a "enemy spotted" broadcast, run to your desk, stumble over your furniture and somehow manage to glimps on your fleet members, only to see they are all save and sound and you think to yourself, hey that's confusing.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2017-01-05 01:29:26 UTC
If I cleared my broadcast history, I'd want my watchlist to stay. There should just be a hotkey to clear watchlist, then you can press both hotkeys at once to save time.

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#18 - 2017-01-05 01:31:12 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
If I cleared my broadcast history, I'd want my watchlist to stay. There should just be a hotkey to clear watchlist, then you can press both hotkeys at once to save time.


See, I don't want my watchlist cleared, only the broadcast icons in front of the bars.

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2017-01-05 02:54:06 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
See, I don't want my watchlist cleared, only the broadcast icons in front of the bars.

Oh I see. I'd be fine with that. I don't much care either way since I don't clear my broadcast history (ever) but if I did clear it and the icons disappeared, if anything that would make sense. I certainly wouldn't be cut up about it.

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Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Lugh Crow-Slave
#20 - 2017-01-05 03:56:13 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
you shouldn't be using the WL to see that **** you should be locking from your BH. the WL should only be used as a back up in case a vital ship screws up and forgets to broad.



I'll give a counter point. If you're in a small gang of 14 ships, but only 7 pilots all dual boxing - the WL is the only way the guy dual boxing the logi ships is going to get things done. The other 4 dual boxers just don't normally have the time to broadcast while fighting 2 ships.

In this case the logi pilots normally work in complete silence (comms and broadcast history) while the other 6 guys talk over each other in semi coherent chaos.



Just pointing out there are several correct ways to do the logi stuff. What works for 100 dude fleets (your way) may not be optimal for all fleets.

The WL gets used quite a bit in PVE fleets also. I'm not sure how exactly, but I think the incursions ninnies have some overly complex way of organizing logistics.





But when you are using the WL for that they are not broadcasting and if they are you have the history. Your point is irrelevant

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
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