EVE General Discussion

Given how many logical fallacies you have used so far, you can't really use that excuse...

Experience with the game has everything to do with it when you are...suggesting changes to the game. Gasp! I just used rational thought!

We already have enough free, easy intel. We don't need to change d-scan to make it even easier. d-scan takes effort, the overview and local don't. Everything is pretty well balanced, other than local chat in sov null. You do understand what balance in a game means, yeah? Are you capable of conversing like an adult?

Yet another thread by Beast , aka "anyone who disagrees with my poorly thought out ideas isn't intelligent"

I'd say this was a straw man argument, except that it's worse than that. You don't even know what a straw man argument is, and either way, you didn't intend to make a straw man argument because that would imply that you understood the issues and knew what you were talking about, which you don't. No, you just blathered a bunch of gobbledigook which pertained to nothing that this thread is about.

I thought trolls were bad, but now I'm dealing with low-grade morons. I think I prefer trolls.

Confirmed troll. All previous posts retroactively irrelevant.

Experience = more tools to understand the nuances of the "problem." Failing to understand the value of experience = you obviously have ZERO experience in literally anything. The person calling you 12 must have been generous. I'd guess 4.

Thread reported as a troll thread. If you're going to do what you are doing here, be more subtle.

Arguing with a toddler troll I guess, but...

It never was a "I played longer, therefore I am right and you are wrong" which is the crux of it as a logical fallacy. The point here is "you obviously have no idea what you're talking about, how about you actually learn the ins and outs of the systems you've been babbling incoherently about from the beginning."

Also, this troll thread is in the wrong subsection anyway. Should be in F&I where it can be properly ignored. I guess I'll always be able to say ib4l.

I would expect someone with a name like that to have no fcks to give.

I reported your post for insults. Your choice of aggressive terms may make you feel you are superior but this thread was not for ****-size competition, so go play this game somewhere else.

The issue is precisely that he does not understand why it's needed to be manually clicked BECAUSE YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN. The only correct answer we had so far is "it creates possibility of failures so PvP is possible" - every thing else is filled with aggressivity, which of course prevents any form of discussion.

People should learn to only add comment that actually provide an answer - and only when they can be not aggressive.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

To summarize for the few non-trolls and the few readers with IQ and reading comprehension levels above 'low-grade moron,' we have been told:

1) Technical limitation (server load, etc).

We accept the concept of a technical limitation as an answer. We merely questioned whether it was a technical limitation because of implementation (algorithms, design, etc), and whether it could possibly be coded differently or better.

2) So 'carebears' don't ruin the game by having everything automated so that the game plays itself.

Of course it was never explained 'why stop there?' For instance, why not make the overview updated by manual spam-click? Why not local chat? Why not the entire display itself? No answer was provided, except 'don't question us, we have more experience' or other logical fallacies.

We tried to explain that there's a difference between a button that is needed for CONTROL - for instance on a gun or a ship - and a button that is not there for control and is therefore nothing but a stupid 'spam click' mechanic - for instance the current dscan. We tried to use a car as an analogy. It would be fine to wire up the gearshift, the steering wheel, and the gas and brake pedals to buttons - those are needed for CONTROL. But it wouldn't be fine to wire the speedometer up to a button that needed to be spam-clicked - you shouldn't need to control the speedometer, and the information it presents should be automatic. For our trouble, this analogy was either ignored, we were attacked and trolled, we were accused of being 'carebears' who wanted to automate the playing of the game, or again the fallacy of 'experience' was invoked.

why... did this thread continue beyond post #2. Is there a gameplay reason for this?

Naturally, the ability to narrow the focus into a cone, and adjust the range, should be manual. Nobody is suggesting that should be taken away or changed. We are talking about the need to spam-click a stupid button for no good reason.