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industry with compressed ore vs minerals

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Dimkin
Algo Industries
#1 - 2016-12-17 22:22:00 UTC
Hi all,
I got a question, after a bit of research and calculations it seems that compressed ore is more expensive than minerals and not by a bit.
Now, I'm into industry and I live in a w-space. So it is much easier logistics for me to haul compressed ore. But when I calculate the margin between using minerals vs compressed ore the differences are big... really BIG.

Am I correct?
I'd be glad for suggestions.

Thanks!
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#2 - 2016-12-17 22:36:22 UTC
What are your refining skills like? Because you're competing with people with really good skills, implants, and doing their refining in Citadels, with T2 rigs.

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Dimkin
Algo Industries
#3 - 2016-12-17 22:39:20 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
What are your refining skills like? Because you're competing with people with really good skills, implants, and doing their refining in Citadels, with T2 rigs.


Refining V Refining Efficiency V and for most of the ores IV
But im not trying to compete. this is more of a w-space logistics question
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#4 - 2016-12-17 23:04:31 UTC
The competition is on the price. Minerals are coming out of ores which have been refined. So there's a refine step you have to take into account, when comparing prices.


Or did I misunderstand the margin you meant?

If you're meaning on volume, compressed ore can hit around 20-25 x smaller (iirc. It's been a while since I looked at the numbers)

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unimatrix0030
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2016-12-20 07:59:20 UTC
If you buy your ores in high sec compress them at any hs citadel that offers refining for free... .
Much cheaper but a lot more time hauling ores in high sec.

No local in null sec would fix everything!
Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#6 - 2016-12-22 08:55:44 UTC
It comes down to easy of use, Compressed ore is way easier to transport so it commands a premium.

If you don't mind hauling a lot more just by minerals. If you are mining and exporting export compressed ore.

Dimkin
Algo Industries
#7 - 2016-12-25 09:53:52 UTC
I think the question is down to this:
I want to run industry in w-space and I don't want to mine. In HS I was buying lots of minerals and pay someone not so big ISK to haul it to my POS.
In w-space it will clearly not work. I can buy compressed ore instead but it looks that for the same amount of minerals that will be extracted from compressed ore I would pay much more than if I was buying minerals.

So does anyone done what I want to do? If so, I'd be happy if you can share your experience/advice.

Thanks.
Infidelc Miromme
Aegis Contractors
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#8 - 2017-01-03 07:56:18 UTC
Dimkin wrote:
I think the question is down to this:
I want to run industry in w-space and I don't want to mine. In HS I was buying lots of minerals and pay someone not so big ISK to haul it to my POS.
In w-space it will clearly not work. I can buy compressed ore instead but it looks that for the same amount of minerals that will be extracted from compressed ore I would pay much more than if I was buying minerals.

So does anyone done what I want to do? If so, I'd be happy if you can share your experience/advice.

Thanks.


Set up buy orders and you can pinch a few extra coins out of the compressed ore, otherwise max out your refining skills to make it viable.
Les Routiers
Proudly Snoring
#9 - 2017-01-03 12:24:14 UTC
Alternately, buy regular ore, compress it and haul the compressed stuff once you have enough and/or the right chain.

That will mean a fair amount of hauling between where you buy the stuff and the citadels you'll be compressing in, but afk hauling with ore in mining areas should be safe enough.

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