Player Features and Ideas Discussion

What view do you guys have towards implementing a battleground concept to Eve?
Sure open world pvp is great, but it is mostly about assessing target situations, baiting and ganking rather than structured even and competitive combat. The only real place to get into this type of game play is by joining formal and informal tournaments that occur periodically. Joining those tournaments though requires a dedication and commitment that is mostly impractical to casual gamer and so most rarely get to experience it.

I think there could be grid and system based battleground games that players can continually enter on a more casual basis.

Naturally there would need to be a variety of different BG games with different admission criteria and perhaps weekly scheduling. To enter you would simply assemble and sit in a ship that meets one of the criteria, perhaps while sitting in certain faction stations and meeting standings criteria. Then select and enter the chosen game, where you will then wait to be paired with opponents. For fleet combat, players must enter a fleet game and be pre-formed as a fleet that meets the entering criteria.

When the game starts players are warped to opposing stations within a system with their ship(perhaps in Jovian or even WH space) and will have a countdown to the start of the game and to get into position. Possible positions being set as beacon locations that players can warp to. Once the starting countdown reaches zero, the game starts and an ending countdown begins.

Getting kills and winning the BG game will earn you LP and the dropped loot of your enemy ships, should you loot/salvage their wrecks before the ending countdown timer ends, which requires each player to be back in the starting station. The LP you earn will either be for an NPC faction you are representing in the fight or for the organizing faction that any lore is based around for establishing this tournament format.

Learn to search the forums, this come sup and is shot down every week.

no, you cannot have arenas in an open world game, go away.

Here's the thing though. Every other mmo has some kind of instanced PvP and almost none of them are open world PvP. People come to eve knowing this and usually looking for this. If you want a instanced PvP experience, there are plenty out there. If however you would like to play Eve, you have to live with open world PvP because anything else breaks the world that Eve has created which is one controlled by the players. The closest you might get would be to form a corp that runs PvP events and likely try to hire another corp or alliance on as security.

It's either that or dueling with individuals and hoping they stick to the terms. Eve isn't a game of convenience, it's a simulation game. Weekly things like this would only detract from other things devs could be doing and it's not that we're halting discussion, it's just no one has a copy paste ready for each and every time this gets suggested and then shot down. This HAS been discussed, to death one might say, that's why they're shooting you down.

#fucknotodojo2017

There is no such way to implement this. Move on.

Ya, and CCP alliance tournaments are impossible too ...

It's just about implementing such a format, or others, through automated means rather than manual ones. The question is not whether it can be done ... because it can ... the question is; is the effort worth it? and, how can it be done without affecting the rest of the game too much? and, What benefits/costs are associated with getting involved with it?

The difference between the AT and your idea is that

1. the number of participants is insignificant compared to the overall EVE populace.
2. it is a time limited event for a very tiny selection of players.
3. it has significant entry fees that are unfeasible for your idea without reducing it to absurdity.
4. other tournaments also have some kind of entry hurdle that you need to overcome (fees, pre-selection, etc.) and that they require effort in order to be put in place.

All these things and several more limit who and when people can take part in these tournaments and thus they have no impact on open-world PVP whatsoever (except for the prices ending up on the killboards in some ridiculous ways).

Your Arena idea (don't you dare to deny that you want an arena system!), however, removes all these limitations and provides people a means to PVP without them having to put effort into finding PVP activities. As a result, fewer and fewer people will see the need to roam around to find targets and they remove themselves from the pool of available targets for other people roaming around, which increases the drag towards the arenas and discourages flying around.

However, the arenas you are looking for are called Jita, Tama, Rancer, M-OEEB, HED-GP, NOL-, Asakai, B-R, N-RAEL, Poitot and so on. We already have instanced PVP because the individual star systems are your instances.

I don't deny that some of the games would be an arena system, but some could also be a game of tag within a system, capture the flag, hauling races blockade running and retrieval. I'm not necessarily saying to make it just a matter of repeatedly queuing up for a fight, only these events a possible options. It could even be implemented as a random daily or weekly achievement or recurring event that need to be signed up for.

There are just so many possibilities that just hearing a blunt "NO" seems rather unimaginative and short sighted.

Sure you are worried about the possible loss of open world pvp content, but what exactly is wrong about lowering the barriers and entry hurdles to engage in tournament style combat. Are you saying such content is worthless and not in demand? because you would be wrong. I'm not saying participation or qualification in this activity should be super easy and abundant, just accessible so that players can experience it in a more casual setting.

This is the point that needs to be hammered, right here.

An Arena system in an "open world" PvP game will create a feedback loop that encourages people to use the Arena more than anything else.

After all... why go out and deal with the unpredictabilities of "open world PvP" when you can get your jollies off at an Arena where only a select few factors matter (tank, range dication, endurance... that is it) and there are no "X factors" you need to be concerned about.

And what proportion of the player base rarely, if ever does this pvp roaming and would actually get involved in a structured pvp format? And how many would benefit from this structure format and then actually be more inclined and comfortable towards joining a pvp roam?

While those of you who live, sleep, and breathe Eve may see open world pvp as the quintessential aspect of Eve and dive right in, there are very large segments of the player base that are hesitant towards the uncertainties and in-game asset loss that corresponds to such inexperience and mind set. That is where an arena comes in, and even if access to it is infrequent. I think it would be beneficial.