Price Checks

Hello Capsulers,

so i had the idea of making a thread here to let everybody know they can write me a message or post in this thread to receive a message with the actual ISK value measured on the PLEX and Skill Injector market and others things.

I could write more about the math behind and everything but i like more to help you out and keep it short when you have no idea what your character is worth in real and not the offers you get from a char trader.

I am also an active character trader and when someone is selling a char without getting my advice before then i also make a low offer and im lucky if i can make some ISK but never when someone asked me for advices before!

Some tips i would give you in advance:

1. When you think about selling your char, then take your time and ignore the pressure from offers via mail or convos give you.
2. Look what skills your char has injected and what are they worth, a good tool to have a view into is my spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O59GWEiRl7io0Uwk3eUkPCiOdCZUyR4ZeOtbsIHqHoU/edit?usp=sharing
3. You have implants or several clones around new eden? If so, count them in!
4. You have other assets like clothes, loyalty points, ship skins, then you should sell them before you trade the char or especially for ship skins count them in.
5. Keep an eye on the market and make your own math for the value you would like to get for your char to see if your price you have in mind is realistic or not.
6. Never sell a char you will miss in the future, i know several guys who contacted me long time after a trade and want the char back because they realised it was an error to sell.
7. Your character has a name, when it is a good one then you should also have a number in mind for this.
8. Standings are also worth to count in, if you have a mission runner standing with corporations then it was work to get them, so count this in.
9. When you have a high security status then its also worth to count this in, even a couple hundred million are worth it.
10. Attribute remaps are also worth to add, normal you have 1 Year to wait before you are able to remap again, so if you have bonus remaps, count them in!

Some things i would like to say about my Skill Book Spreadsheet and the math to measure a char value:

Before Skill Extractors came into the game the math for the price from a toon was also measured by PLEX and Training Time.

After the introduction of Skill Extractors this has changed and clever guys was able to make tons of ISK with buying chars very cheap and Extract the skill points for Injectors and selling them.

Todays worth of a character is a little bit harder to figure out, now it is how many PLEX you need to buy to exchange them in the NES store to buy enough Extractors and then the value of ISK you can get from the Injectors after selling them, but to say that direct, don't do it, your char is worth more!

The Spreadsheet i created includes all skills and with copy and paste your eveboard it can give you a accurate result about the value of Skill Books.




✴✴✴ A character is not only worth the Skill Extractor/Injector value ✴✴✴

Maybe you was reading about the fact you are not getting 500k SP on top when you reach a certain lvl of SP and you inject another Skill Injector, i made a little sheet for my self i would like to share with everybody:
Spreadsheet Extractor/Injector SP list
This spreadsheet shows a few things you maybe interested on

One very important thing i tell everybody who is selling a char, please count the skillpoints who get lost when injected in to your character price, this is was 99% not do at the moment!

Till today it is not possible to call prices via api in from Citadel Sell Orders, this is hopefully changing in the future, so be aware about the fact you see prices from The Forge Stations and not from the Citadel in Perimeter where most of the Skill Injectors get sold. If you want accurate numbers then you have to watch the Perimeter market and do your own math.

Let me know if i can help you, i do it for free but i take donations if you like
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Reserved

Thank you for these tips

And right here i have to tell you this is wrong because it should be a seller market as first point and second point is, with the introduction of Extractors many people saw they can take advantage from it to calculate only what can get traded on the market and this is created by super rich people who are able to make a quick trade with this money.

Almost ignored is here that a char over 5m SP has not the same benefit from injecting skills anymore, and this is multiplyed per Injector and the burned SP, and this is what people not count because the speed where the character market is running at the moment with a few char traders who are able to invest hundreds of billions and make a quick profit this way have made it the normal way, but sellers should understand this is wrong and cost a lot of worth from a char.

Take a look above in the example math, a char with 105m SP and 78b Extractor value is getting sold for this value because the traders including me created this kind of normality.
This char should get sold somewhere between 78b and 132b because the difference is what someone has burned when he is trying to bring a char up to the same SP value, this should be realized in my opinion! Plus Skill Books and other things an existing char already has.



This is also discusting, when someone is selling a char, then he should have profit and the profit is measured by supply, demand and offers, at the moment we have a character market wich is only runed by supply and the traders take advantage of what was created over the last couple months from them with low offers on the easiest measurable thing, Extraction and this is killing the demand because the char is dead.

People who are not willing to measure a toon over the extraction value should become advice and this is why i do this.

I think when every seller is limiting his lowest line on a char on let us say 50% from what is between extractor value and the real worth, then we can have a way better character market as we have now with riches who have ruined the market.

Its an Eve market.

The new system has given us an even easier way to calculate character value or sell our toons SP. If people wish to sell below this value, its there own fault. If your selling a character even with research you would know of skill extractors and would be able to calculate value.

The current system doesn't need a change or people to be informed. We now have a simple, easy calc we can run to determine value. People can buy or sell at whatever price they want.

Marissa Malukker, what is it your exactly want to achieve? I agree as a trader, some characters should be sold for more but at the same time, its like every other market.

Auds

Absolut ok that you are not ok at all, it's understandable a char trader is writing what you do, you only want the profit.
My achievements are all sellers i am able to advice if they want this.

good appraiser , every little infos about the why and how to is explained
this is the place to make the most of the character you sell

+1

regards

I'm a little confused here. In your example you value a 70 million SP character at 135 billion? That seem wildly inaccurate.

Okay so checking the bazaar scraper on pilots sold at 100-130 million SP.

http://www.evecharactersearch.com/?ft1=sp&op1=ge&sp1=100

in billions what they sold for
90
85
86
85
90
80


How do you account for an average overestimation of some 50 billion isk?

Okay so 130 billion is not the estimated value of the pilot. its just an actual example of you estimation of a pilots value?

I mean there is certainly a lot of data. Even added bonuses for pilot age but the end result is just enormously off the mark.

Especially for an example showcasing your talents.