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Don't send an Ammatar to do an Udorian's job
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Arrendis
TK Corp
#21 - 2016-12-24 17:59:58 UTC
Val Kaleth wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
You're comparing apples to oranges here.

Apple Supremacy !

Oranges are better


Application, folks, application.

Apples are the superior projectile and pie filling.

Oranges are the superior duck flavoring and juice.
Val Kaleth
Realm of Mischief
DammFam
#22 - 2016-12-24 18:52:21 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Val Kaleth wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
You're comparing apples to oranges here.

Apple Supremacy !

Oranges are better


Application, folks, application.

Apples are the superior projectile and pie filling.

Oranges are the superior duck flavoring and juice.


It's brilliant

*draws up a pattern for apple projectile ammo*

Feel free to join me in game in the "Realm of Mischief" channel.

🇮🇪

disappears in a cloud of rust
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
#23 - 2016-12-29 15:59:44 UTC
Val Kaleth wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
You're comparing apples to oranges here.


Apples superior. Oranges inferior.

Apple Supremacy !


The lady has a point, all slavers should be tied up and have an apple shoved into their mouths. If they are lucky a spanking might follow.


P.S. Oranges are better


As long as it is consensual I certainly wouldn't mind doing that to few slaves Twisted

We stand at the Abyss, drawing the Patterns of Fate - Casserina Leshrac, Savant, Sani Sabik.
Graelyn
Aeternus Command Academy
#24 - 2016-12-29 16:52:59 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Truly, we live in the darkest of dark times.


That'll be 12 ISK.

Cardinal Graelyn

Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2016-12-29 17:21:26 UTC
Val Kaleth wrote:
Ammatar are useless and weak minded, if that was not true they would be free and shooting at you.
The Ammatar are free though ...are you being sarcastic or do you really not understand what the mandate is?

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.
Val Kaleth
Realm of Mischief
DammFam
#26 - 2016-12-29 18:01:21 UTC
Ayallah wrote:
Val Kaleth wrote:
Ammatar are useless and weak minded, if that was not true they would be free and shooting at you.
The Ammatar are free though ...are you being sarcastic or do you really not understand what the mandate is?


I was pointing out the stupidity of choosing to be Ammatar.

Feel free to join me in game in the "Realm of Mischief" channel.

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Saya Ishikari
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#27 - 2016-12-29 18:49:20 UTC
Val Kaleth wrote:
Ayallah wrote:
Val Kaleth wrote:
Ammatar are useless and weak minded, if that was not true they would be free and shooting at you.
The Ammatar are free though ...are you being sarcastic or do you really not understand what the mandate is?


I was pointing out the stupidity of choosing to be Ammatar.

If anyone has ever had the chance to choose where, when, and to what bloodline to be born, I've never heard of them.

"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
Val Kaleth
Realm of Mischief
DammFam
#28 - 2016-12-29 22:14:38 UTC
Saya Ishikari wrote:
Val Kaleth wrote:
Ayallah wrote:
Val Kaleth wrote:
Ammatar are useless and weak minded, if that was not true they would be free and shooting at you.
The Ammatar are free though ...are you being sarcastic or do you really not understand what the mandate is?


I was pointing out the stupidity of choosing to be Ammatar.

If anyone has ever had the chance to choose where, when, and to what bloodline to be born, I've never heard of them.


No, but licking boots is a choice.

The only option left is to shoot apples at them.

Feel free to join me in game in the "Realm of Mischief" channel.

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Graelyn
Aeternus Command Academy
#29 - 2016-12-29 22:33:26 UTC
I love apples!

Cardinal Graelyn

Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#30 - 2016-12-29 23:44:12 UTC
Ey, you're alive!

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#31 - 2016-12-30 15:57:11 UTC
Graelyn wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
Truly, we live in the darkest of dark times.


That'll be 12 ISK.


No it won't.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Saya Ishikari
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#32 - 2016-12-30 17:26:37 UTC
Val Kaleth wrote:
Saya Ishikari wrote:
Val Kaleth wrote:
Ayallah wrote:
Val Kaleth wrote:
Ammatar are useless and weak minded, if that was not true they would be free and shooting at you.
The Ammatar are free though ...are you being sarcastic or do you really not understand what the mandate is?


I was pointing out the stupidity of choosing to be Ammatar.

If anyone has ever had the chance to choose where, when, and to what bloodline to be born, I've never heard of them.


No, but licking boots is a choice.

The only option left is to shoot apples at them.

If your argument is to hold the generations that exist today, as distinct individuals under an established culture, as responsible for their ancestors actions, then you'll find precisely zero innocent souls in New Eden at the end of that tally. Decisions made in the past are just that. Past, with only the aspect of hindsight as to whether we cling to the results as justification for more of the same, in repetition.

It's a personal choice to use past decisions to justify current views and actions. It is not a personal choice to be born into the results of past decisions that have resulted in a solidified social construct.

If however, the argument is in regards to current "boot licking"... Ignoring that the Ammatar likely have no desire to do so, unless there is some proviso for the Mandate to truly break away and become independent, I suspect any such attempt would go over much the same as my own ancestors decision to depart the Federation, of which we were signatories, rather than a conquered population.

"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
Arrendis
TK Corp
#33 - 2016-12-30 17:36:56 UTC
Saya Ishikari wrote:

If your argument is to hold the generations that exist today, as distinct individuals under an established culture, as responsible for their ancestors actions, then you'll find precisely zero innocent souls in New Eden at the end of that tally. Decisions made in the past are just that. Past, with only the aspect of hindsight as to whether we cling to the results as justification for more of the same, in repetition.

It's a personal choice to use past decisions to justify current views and actions. It is not a personal choice to be born into the results of past decisions that have resulted in a solidified social construct.

If however, the argument is in regards to current "boot licking"... Ignoring that the Ammatar likely have no desire to do so, unless there is some proviso for the Mandate to truly break away and become independent, I suspect any such attempt would go over much the same as my own ancestors decision to depart the Federation, of which we were signatories, rather than a conquered population.


Or, and I'm just tossing this out there as one of those things you might want to consider, she could be saying that the people of the Ammatar Mandate have the choice to either be Ammatar, remaining where they are and continuing to serve the Ardishapur family (Because they technically own the Mandate in trust for the Throne, the Ammatar themselves don't.) or they could choose to rejoin the reconstructed Nefantar Tribe in the Republic, and help shape the course their people chart toward the future.
Saya Ishikari
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#34 - 2016-12-30 18:35:31 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Saya Ishikari wrote:

If your argument is to hold the generations that exist today, as distinct individuals under an established culture, as responsible for their ancestors actions, then you'll find precisely zero innocent souls in New Eden at the end of that tally. Decisions made in the past are just that. Past, with only the aspect of hindsight as to whether we cling to the results as justification for more of the same, in repetition.

It's a personal choice to use past decisions to justify current views and actions. It is not a personal choice to be born into the results of past decisions that have resulted in a solidified social construct.

If however, the argument is in regards to current "boot licking"... Ignoring that the Ammatar likely have no desire to do so, unless there is some proviso for the Mandate to truly break away and become independent, I suspect any such attempt would go over much the same as my own ancestors decision to depart the Federation, of which we were signatories, rather than a conquered population.


Or, and I'm just tossing this out there as one of those things you might want to consider, she could be saying that the people of the Ammatar Mandate have the choice to either be Ammatar, remaining where they are and continuing to serve the Ardishapur family (Because they technically own the Mandate in trust for the Throne, the Ammatar themselves don't.) or they could choose to rejoin the reconstructed Nefantar Tribe in the Republic, and help shape the course their people chart toward the future.

That's part of my reference. I'd assumed it would be understood. Breaking it down more simply; The choice you perceive is not the choice they perceive. Presented from the opposite end, they have the option of abandoning all they know, and an established, if subservient, existence, in order to take a massive risk in a historically unstable nation, or continue the status quo.

Does that cover the implication thoroughly enough? I'm assuming that such unspoken context is understood, which is often a mistake on my part. Again, the way perceptions differ.

"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
Izetta Malgar
Anla.Shok
#35 - 2017-01-01 19:39:18 UTC
Well there's your problem... you're a filthy slaver using traitors to do your work.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#36 - 2017-01-01 21:34:54 UTC
Izetta Malgar wrote:
Well there's your problem... you're a filthy slaver using traitors to do your work.


Objection. I am not a filthy slaver.

Why, I sometimes have as many as two showers a day.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Izetta Malgar
Anla.Shok
#37 - 2017-01-02 01:50:12 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Izetta Malgar wrote:
Well there's your problem... you're a filthy slaver using traitors to do your work.


Objection. I am not a filthy slaver.

Why, I sometimes have as many as two showers a day.


Any slaver is filthy to the Minmatar, no matter which overpriced scented soap you people use.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#38 - 2017-01-02 01:56:05 UTC
Izetta Malgar wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
Izetta Malgar wrote:
Well there's your problem... you're a filthy slaver using traitors to do your work.


Objection. I am not a filthy slaver.

Why, I sometimes have as many as two showers a day.


Any slaver is filthy to the Minmatar, no matter which overpriced scented soap you people use.


Oh, so now you're an expert in cosmetics pricing as well, are you ?

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Izetta Malgar
Anla.Shok
#39 - 2017-01-02 02:35:14 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Izetta Malgar wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
Izetta Malgar wrote:
Well there's your problem... you're a filthy slaver using traitors to do your work.


Objection. I am not a filthy slaver.

Why, I sometimes have as many as two showers a day.


Any slaver is filthy to the Minmatar, no matter which overpriced scented soap you people use.


Oh, so now you're an expert in cosmetics pricing as well, are you ?


Well at least our cosmetics aren't made from slave labor.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#40 - 2017-01-02 05:56:01 UTC
Izetta Malgar wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:

Oh, so now you're an expert in cosmetics pricing as well, are you ?


Well at least our cosmetics aren't made from slave labor.


Do you mean by slave labor? Because otherwise... wow, I really need to have some words with my Amarr friends...
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