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Are mining permits actually a thing?

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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#101 - 2016-12-31 01:29:03 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Never said they use offensive language but their doctrine is definitely Racist towards players who engage in Mining. They also discriminate and persecute them as well.

Racist is a person who believes that one's own racial group is superior or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others.


DMC
Racism implies discrimination based upon one's race or ethnicity, miners are neither a race nor an ethnic group; ergo it's not racism.

While CODE. may indeed persecute people based upon their occupation and state of awareness, or lack thereof, it is by no means racist.

Throwing out socially charged words such as racist does nobody any favours, it merely shows your ignorance.

Gregorius Goldstein wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:

Never said they use offensive language but their doctrine is definitely Racist towards players who engage in Mining. They also discriminate and persecute them as well.

Racist is a person who believes that one's own racial group is superior or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others.
DMC


To discriminate somone because of his/her profession is not racism but rankism or classism. There is a political correct word for nearly everything Roll

OK, since you don't like the term Racist, there's lot's of other synonyms that can be used such as Bigoted, Biased, Chauvinistic, Supremacist, Discriminatory, Elitism, Prejudiced, etc. Take your pick, doesn't really matter which one is used, they all basically make the same point.

Strange little tidbit of info, out of all the posted replies in this thread there's only one reply, a spelling / grammar correction between your / you're, that has more likes than my first original reply :
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
CODE is a terrorist organization comprised of multiple cells that spread racist propaganda in an attempt to strong-arm ISK from law abiding citizens of New Eden. They are nothing more than a fanatical Jihad gang indulging in Racketeering, Extortion, Harassment and Suicide Ganking. They do not control or own any Sovereignty. Purchasing a Mining Permit will not protect you from being attacked anywhere and at anytime.


DMC

Despite the nit picking done by CODE sympathizers about the choice of terms I used, this reply obviously states what a lot of others think.


DMC
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#102 - 2016-12-31 02:00:52 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:

OK, since you don't like the term Racist, there's lot's of other synonyms that can be used such as Bigoted, Biased, Chauvinistic, Supremacist, Discriminatory, Elitism, Prejudiced, etc. Take your pick, doesn't really matter which one is used, they all basically make the same point.

Strange little tidbit of info, out of all the posted replies in this thread there's only one reply, a spelling / grammar correction between your / you're, that has more likes than my first original reply :
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
CODE is a terrorist organization comprised of multiple cells that spread racist propaganda in an attempt to strong-arm ISK from law abiding citizens of New Eden. They are nothing more than a fanatical Jihad gang indulging in Racketeering, Extortion, Harassment and Suicide Ganking. They do not control or own any Sovereignty. Purchasing a Mining Permit will not protect you from being attacked anywhere and at anytime.


DMC

Despite the nit picking done by CODE sympathizers about the choice of terms I used, this reply obviously states what a lot of others think.


DMC

Hahaha, cute you think likes mean something. Most of yours are in that OOPE thread even though the people there don't even like you. That should be good evidence to you that likes have no meaning.

Aside from that, your use of terms is still idiotic. You are just as biased and discriminatory for example. You've even been banned from the game permanently for your abusive language and harassment of other players.

Like you have any ability to point fingers. Your house has more glass in it than anyone's.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#103 - 2016-12-31 02:05:58 UTC
I feel oppressed by the bigoted, biased, chauvinistic, supremacist, discriminatory, and prejudiced like-elite. :(
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#104 - 2016-12-31 03:12:09 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
I feel oppressed by the bigoted, biased, chauvinistic, supremacist, discriminatory, and prejudiced like-elite. :(


Hoist the black flag, fly into lowsec or nullsec and slit throats. You will never feel oppressed again.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#105 - 2016-12-31 03:28:28 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:

Hahaha, cute you think likes mean something. Most of yours are in that OOPE thread even though the people there don't even like you. That should be good evidence to you that likes have no meaning.

Aside from that, your use of terms is still idiotic. You are just as biased and discriminatory for example. You've even been banned from the game permanently for your abusive language and harassment of other players.

Like you have any ability to point fingers. Your house has more glass in it than anyone's.

Wow, sounds like this thread topic has hit a sore spot with you inciting you to do a personal attack. Obviously your lack of reading comprehension is causing you to take things personally. My reply was about the amount of likes given to posted replies in this thread, not the amount of likes per character profile.

As for being idiotic, there's no denying that you're the winner of that contest, especially if you think you're the chosen spokesperson for OOPE. Also you couldn't be more wrong in saying I was permanently banned from the game for abusive language and harassment of other players.



DMC
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#106 - 2016-12-31 03:37:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Shae Tadaruwa
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:

Hahaha, cute you think likes mean something. Most of yours are in that OOPE thread even though the people there don't even like you. That should be good evidence to you that likes have no meaning.

Aside from that, your use of terms is still idiotic. You are just as biased and discriminatory for example. You've even been banned from the game permanently for your abusive language and harassment of other players.

Like you have any ability to point fingers. Your house has more glass in it than anyone's.

Wow, sounds like this thread topic has hit a sore spot with you inciting you to do a personal attack. Obviously your lack of reading comprehension is causing you to take things personally. My reply was about the amount of likes given to posted replies in this thread, not the amount of likes per character profile.

As for being idiotic, there's no denying that you're the winner of that contest, especially if you think you're the chosen spokesperson for OOPE. Also you couldn't be more wrong in saying I was permanently banned from the game for abusive language and harassment of other players.



DMC

You sent your little abusive evemail threatening the guy in real life. You were permanently banned and then cried about it.

Pretty straight forward case of preaching at others when you have a history of behaviour you complain about.

Likes have no meaning in any context. I just liked your post, but that doesn't mean it's good, nor that I actually like it. They have 0 meaning, yet you regularly point to likes like they have some value (except when it doesn't suit you, and then you cry about them).

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#107 - 2016-12-31 04:22:56 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:

You sent your little abusive evemail threatening the guy in real life. You were permanently banned and then cried about it.

Pretty straight forward case of preaching at others when you have a history of behaviour you complain about.

Likes have no meaning in any context. I just liked your post, but that doesn't mean it's good, nor that I actually like it. They have 0 meaning, yet you regularly point to likes like they have some value (except when it doesn't suit you, and then you cry about them).

Heh, just like a troll you keep on pushing. The only reason you liked the post was to get my attention in an attempt to incite a flame war with the hope of derailing this thread. Sorry to say this but you're sadly mistaken and completely wrong if you think that's gonna happen. I don't know where you get your info but I've never sent anyone an abusive Eve mail threatening them in real life and I definitely wasn't permanently banned from the game.



DMC


Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#108 - 2016-12-31 05:09:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Shae Tadaruwa
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
. I don't know where you get your info but I've never sent anyone an abusive Eve mail threatening them in real life and I definitely wasn't permanently banned from the game.



DMC



Add liar to the list:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6229974#post6229974

Evidence there for all to read, in your own words. More evidence available too.

But, back to the point - you have no foot to stand on calling others biased, discriminatory, bullies, harassing jihadists etc... with your history of abusing and harassing others; and making threats against them.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

Marcus Binchiette
Federal Vanguard
#109 - 2016-12-31 05:37:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Marcus Binchiette
Bing Bangboom wrote:
Selmak Shakiel wrote:



BULL

I WAS TALKING TO SOMEONE YESTERDAY WHO PAID FOR THE SO CALLED "MINING PERMIT"(DOES NOT EXIST) AND NEVER WILL THE DAY BEFORE AND WAS GANKED YESTERDAY WHILE MINING

SO YOU GUYS ARE FULL OF IT. ITS EXTORTION PLAIN AND SIMPLE


Miner, calm down.


Why don'y you shut the **** up you lying ****... You just got owned. Please do **** off.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#110 - 2016-12-31 07:11:37 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
. I don't know where you get your info but I've never sent anyone an abusive Eve mail threatening them in real life and I definitely wasn't permanently banned from the game.



DMC



Add liar to the list:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6229974#post6229974

Evidence there for all to read, in your own words. More evidence available too.

But, back to the point - you have no foot to stand on calling others biased, discriminatory, bullies, harassing jihadists etc... with your history of abusing and harassing others; and making threats against them.
What evidence ?
As I said - you definitely have a major problem with reading comprehension. You not only interpreted it wrong you also jumped to conclusions based on insufficient facts, just like the 3rd party company that's now working as Customer Support. Regardless of how you feel towards me, and the feeling is definitely mutual, the bottom line is that CCP ruled it wasn't a real life threat and reinstated my account, thus no permanent ban.


DMC
Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#111 - 2016-12-31 07:19:29 UTC
I hear the soft tread of the Lock Master heading our way (they all appear to be men, or at least have male avatars, but since ISD is a volunteer position, I guess you can't interfere...).

So, back to the topic: Are Mining Permits Actually a Thing? (My capitalisation)

Why yes, yes they are!
Salvos Rhoska
#112 - 2016-12-31 08:09:37 UTC
Mining Permits are a thing, in the way that writing Santa your Christmas wishlist is a thing.
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#113 - 2016-12-31 09:16:56 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:

OK, since you don't like the term Racist, there's lot's of other synonyms that can be used such as Bigoted, Biased, Chauvinistic, Supremacist, Discriminatory, Elitism, Prejudiced, etc. Take your pick, doesn't really matter which one is used, they all basically make the same point.



I don't think it is a case of not liking a term, it is picking the correct term that explains the situation.

Most of the words you say can be used instead of racist, imo, cannot. Bigoted, Biased, Chauvinistic, Supremacist, Discriminatory, Elitism, Prejudiced is essentially believing you are better than others which is confidence on steroids. This can become an uncontrolled force that skews perceptions and produces distortions, if you do not realise it is what it is.
If you are a sex, color or intelligence, these names can be applied. What they have at the root of these names is 1) negativity and 2) freedom of speech.

However, racist is an incorrect term in virtually every case as we are all part of the human race. The only person that can use the term correctly would be a non-human.

What I suggest is that you look seriously at the way you use your words to label. I think you are doing it to get a rise out of people, to trigger a response and that requires some introspection.

HNY

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking

Salvos Rhoska
#114 - 2016-12-31 09:23:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Klandi wrote:
However, racist is an incorrect term in virtually every case as we are all part of the human race. The only person that can use the term correctly would be a non-human.

What I suggest is that you look seriously at the way you use your words to label.


There is no such thing as the "human race".

Humanity is a species, not a race, called "homo sapiens".

Modern humans are a subspecies, called " homo sapiens sapiens".

Race is a taxonomic sub-division within that category based on phenotype and other factors, which is widely debated.
Logan Revelore
Symbiotic Systems
#115 - 2016-12-31 09:26:38 UTC
HadleysHope wrote:
Just returned to the game after a lonngg time away and got blown up by a guy who mailed me saying he'd done it because I didnt have a mining permit.

I mean I guess if we have to buy them then fair enough but from what I have read so far these permits can be cancelled if you exhibit 'bot-aspirant' behavior (which apparently I did). I immediately tried to warp out but im flying a mining barge so....

Anyways, I get that being jumped is part of the game so is it worth buying a permit if it can be cancelled via a spurious loophole. What do you fine people do?


They are not a thing. Some players will make you think so though and blow you up. It's a PvP game.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#116 - 2016-12-31 10:01:08 UTC
With respect to DMC.

CODE is a terrorist organization comprised of multiple cells that spread self-aggrandising propaganda in an attempt to strong-arm ISK from law abiding citizens of New Eden. They are nothing more than a declining but fanatical criminal gang indulging in Racketeering, Extortion, Harassment and Suicide Ganking. They do not control or own any Sovereignty. Purchasing a Mining Permit will not protect you from being attacked anywhere and at anytime often on a whim.

That is perhaps a better way to put it, notice the declining part... Big smile

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

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Salvos Rhoska
#117 - 2016-12-31 10:39:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
There is a core and near constant (albeit changing) small percentage of EVE players, whom play this game for the very specific reasons of tear-extraction, scamming and bending rules of player interaction to its absolute limit (sometimes past breaking point).

They are endemic to EVE, and constitute part of its character, as an extreme expression and manifestation of its comparative lack of ethic and mechanic constraints.

Some of them are conniving, creative, manipulative and ingenious in ways far beyond the capacity of the overwhelming majority of players, as well as CCP staff. (Im not talking about CODE players now, but of the minds behind its conception.)

The "Bonus Room" debacle was the utmost example of this, and necessarily, eventually, dealt with as going too far.
This showed the extents people are capable of going to in a game, if unrestricted by limitations.
It started to blur past the lines into IRL legal jurisdictions and crimes in many aspects.

Its fascinating from a psychological and legal perspective (regarding the lines between virtual and real environments), but that is a topic for another thread.

Nonetheless, they are a "necessary evil". And useful.

In their own way, they contribute to EVE's character/content, and incessantly test the limits which results in changes in rules or player behavior for a "better" game, and on the limits of gaming systems universally overall (also in a legal sense).
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#118 - 2016-12-31 11:29:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Zimmy Zeta
Marcus Binchiette wrote:


Why don'y you shut the **** up you lying ****... You just got owned. Please do **** off.


Free posting advice:
Should it ever be necessary to point out to people when and if they had been owned (or pwned) then chances are high no ownage took place at all and it's all just wishful thinking coupled with impotent rage.

also:

COME BACK, TIPPIA, THE FORUMS NEED YOU!!

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#119 - 2016-12-31 11:55:23 UTC
Marcus Binchiette wrote:
Bing Bangboom wrote:
Miner, calm down.


Why don'y you shut the **** up you lying ****... You just got owned. Please do **** off.

Wow miner, you got some anger issues it seams.

Also Bing is a respected Agent of the New Order and your words are really not how you address a superior.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#120 - 2016-12-31 11:56:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Marcus Binchiette wrote:


Why don'y you shut the **** up you lying ****... You just got owned. Please do **** off.


Free posting advice:
Should it ever be necessary to point out to people when and if they had been owned (or pwned) then chances are high no ownage took place at all and it's all just wishful thinking coupled with impotent rage.
For our amusement, I say we let the angry man continue to be angry and dig himself a whopping great hole with his rule violations.

Quote:
COME BACK, TIPPIA, THE FORUMS NEED YOU!!
Frak Yeah.

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