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Getting into hauling
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Tara Kaos
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-12-30 16:28:46 UTC
Hey All
I started 2 weeks ago or so and started out as mining, been enjoying ti a lot but I want to diversify my industrial business. So i was thinking of hauling with a goal of being a blockade runner sounds like fun. So I started looking at the ships but i'm really not a huge fan of the Gallente ships. I really like the look of the Minmitar freighters way more. So should I roll a hauler alt? Or can/should I just start training Minmitar Industry?
Lena Crews
Corporate Navy Police Force
Sleep Reapers
#2 - 2016-12-30 16:56:27 UTC
Tara Kaos wrote:
Hey All
I started 2 weeks ago or so and started out as mining, been enjoying ti a lot but I want to diversify my industrial business. So i was thinking of hauling with a goal of being a blockade runner sounds like fun. So I started looking at the ships but i'm really not a huge fan of the Gallente ships. I really like the look of the Minmitar freighters way more. So should I roll a hauler alt? Or can/should I just start training Minmitar Industry?


If you're omega, no reason not to just train for the ship you want to fly.

I'm a minmatar but like to fly Gallente and Amarr ships mostly. I like drones.

With alts (on the same account)... you have to think what the reasons are you're creating them and why you'd want to use them instead of doing the same thing with your main. There can be good reasons, but my view is generally to only train a distinct toon if there's a good reason.
Tara Kaos
Doomheim
#3 - 2016-12-30 17:19:08 UTC
Lena Crews wrote:
Tara Kaos wrote:
Hey All
I started 2 weeks ago or so and started out as mining, been enjoying ti a lot but I want to diversify my industrial business. So i was thinking of hauling with a goal of being a blockade runner sounds like fun. So I started looking at the ships but i'm really not a huge fan of the Gallente ships. I really like the look of the Minmitar freighters way more. So should I roll a hauler alt? Or can/should I just start training Minmitar Industry?


If you're omega, no reason not to just train for the ship you want to fly.

I'm a minmatar but like to fly Gallente and Amarr ships mostly. I like drones.

With alts (on the same account)... you have to think what the reasons are you're creating them and why you'd want to use them instead of doing the same thing with your main. There can be good reasons, but my view is generally to only train a distinct toon if there's a good reason.


So what would be the reasons to make an alt versus just training the skills? I mean you can't train skills on multiple characters right? Or is it just an attributes/implants issue?
Lena Crews
Corporate Navy Police Force
Sleep Reapers
#4 - 2016-12-30 17:28:58 UTC
Tara Kaos wrote:
Lena Crews wrote:
Tara Kaos wrote:
Hey All
I started 2 weeks ago or so and started out as mining, been enjoying ti a lot but I want to diversify my industrial business. So i was thinking of hauling with a goal of being a blockade runner sounds like fun. So I started looking at the ships but i'm really not a huge fan of the Gallente ships. I really like the look of the Minmitar freighters way more. So should I roll a hauler alt? Or can/should I just start training Minmitar Industry?


If you're omega, no reason not to just train for the ship you want to fly.

I'm a minmatar but like to fly Gallente and Amarr ships mostly. I like drones.

With alts (on the same account)... you have to think what the reasons are you're creating them and why you'd want to use them instead of doing the same thing with your main. There can be good reasons, but my view is generally to only train a distinct toon if there's a good reason.


So what would be the reasons to make an alt versus just training the skills? I mean you can't train skills on multiple characters right? Or is it just an attributes/implants issue?


For a "main" account, think about things where you could have a relatively brief train time and never train again. For example... PI. With a week or so training you can have command center upgrades and interplanetary consolidation to 4 and the other base PI skills to 3... and gallente industrial 1 (for the Epithal). You don't have to train those characters after that... and after setting up PI you can just log in a couple of times a week to restart your extraction jobs and occasionally haul the PI materials out to market.

The sale of those materials can give you an income stream with very little time logged in on the toon. The lower interaction setups don't earn as much, but an extra few hundred million a month in income is nice. All for a couple of weeks of training lost from your main.

Getting a few extra science skills so you can increase the efficiency of BPO's or make copies for invention might be something else you could look at. Perhaps even datacore farming (though I'm not sure that's worth the training time anymore).

Perhaps train up trading skills on an alt and camp them at Jita or another trade hub for station trading. You can log in once a day, update buy and sell orders and log off... 10 minutes of work. Training so you can handle more orders (and pay less broker fees/taxes) is worthwhile for the alt if you use them that way.
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#5 - 2016-12-30 17:29:23 UTC
If you are going to try and make a business out of contract hauling you need to get an attitude adjustment towards ships based on race or appearance and replace it with one based on the best tool for the job. Here are just two examples.

While you can haul ore or minerals in any industrial ship only the Gallente Miasmos has a dedicated ore hold making it the best option for this specific task.
On the other hand the Minmatar Hoarder is the only ship with a dedicated ammo hold making it the best option for this task.

Setting these obvious things aside there is an entire list of reasons to be more flexible. Align time, warp speed, tanking ability and many others are also valid reasons to choose one ship over another.

Getting back to your specific questions.
If you prefer the Minmatar ships there is no reason in the short term not to use them.
Also long term you will need to train to fly virtually every type of industrial ship and that includes the blockade runners and the deep space transport ships. Likely you will need to train into a freighter at some point as well. If you move to, or haul into and out of low and nul you will need to train for the jump freighter and that will require a second account to hold your cyno characters.

Now to the alt for hauling, that really depends on you and what you want.
If you do not plan on PvP with the Tara Kaos character there is no reason not to train her as the hauler, you can always add an alt in needed. On the other hand the simple fact that you have posted your intentions to be a contract hauler with the Tara Kaos character tells me the smart thing to do is start an alt for hauling and then do not tell anyone what that characters names is or what corp they belong to.
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#6 - 2016-12-30 17:44:55 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
the smart thing to do is start an alt for hauling and then do not tell anyone what that characters names is or what corp they belong to.


+1,001.

All the haulers I know use an NPC or Alt-corp freighter/JF pilot and they go to rather extreme lengths to prevent people connecting their hauler alt with their known public face.

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