EVE General Discussion

Ive watched a guy on twitch doing the following:

He invades peoples missions and starts salvaging the wrecks in what looks like an unassuming ship.
Sometimes he might even swipe some loot or attack an MTU.

When/if the mission BS engages, he quickly orbits it close, scrambles it, sets neut drones on it, disengages the salvagers and turns on neuts. Then he brings in another ship to orbit it and slowly pop it. Its excruciatingly slow, but effective. Sometimes he offers a ransom, collects it, but then just continues anyways.

The BS pilots more often than not completely lose their minds over the 15-20mins this process takes to peck them to death. They go through all five stages of grief in succession, as they desperately try to resist the inevitable.

The trapper though, is perfectly calm, no lolling or gleeful tear extraction on cam.
Its just his business. This is what he does.

He goes through this about half a dozen times in a play session and makes excellent bank.
I was fascinated watching it. His method is utterly calculated, honed and efficient.
His fits are cheap too. Tiny fraction of the cost of his targets.
Was truly interesting watching such a professional operation.

And all of it could have been avoided if the BS had simply not engaged.
But they almost always do.

Your douchebaggery is in labelling people as sociopaths because of how they play a game.

Some players are mining for salt and enjoy the tears of rage. But I think most of the time the motivation is just the thrill of the hunt. And what other prey could compete with a mission fit battleship in term of juiciness for a hunter?

When I hear stories about a mission boat getting tickled to death over half an hour I wonder ifl those victims play EVE strictly solitary or are to proud to call for help. If you have noone that could come and help you, perhaps you should have not shot at a baiting ship? Flying away is always an optiion, just don't shot at yellow blinking ships when you are alone for Bobs sake?

Personally I'd tend to agree with this^

In a game setting "because I can" is a perfectly valid reason to do something...ultimately one could argue it's the only real reason to do anything. Fun is subjective. There are many activities in Eve (and other games for that matter) that I do not find fun, but others may well do so. If it's not against the rules then go for it. I am certainly not going to try and dictate what other people should or should not find fun.

I choose to be nice or otherwise depending on circumstances at the time. Maybe one day I will gank someone (because I can), the next day I'll choose to let them pass (because I can), or spend my entire game session helping people in help chat. Does this mean I am a semi-sociopath? Back in the day I used to create alts just so I could get into rookie chat and help out as best I could....but if I was camping a gate I'd pop those same rookies without a second thought. Does this make me a bad person?

In RL I do not condone criminal activities. In game I'll do whatever the hell I feel like as long as I'm not breaking the rules to do it. If I'm bored I may choose to run missions, or to mess with other peoples missions. Either way, if I do it properly, I'm going to profit (in-game). It may well be that the people I "mess with" get upset. On the other hand, I've had people mess with me before in all kinds of situations in Eve, and each time I viewed it as a learning experience, and was ultimately grateful to those individuals for helping me to be better at this game. Maybe I'm alone in appreciating the value of a lesson learned the hard way (I rather doubt it), but the school of hard knocks is fine by me.

Eve is a unique game in my experience, and requires a certain mind-set to do well in. When talking to friends who are thinking about taking up Eve themselves one question I tend to ask them is whether they can take a beating, learn from it, and carry on. If the answer is no, then I may advise them that they are unlikely to enjoy playing Eve. If the answer is yes, they are likely to do well in this game.

Now we need ISD's and devs to pop in with wall-of-text no's too.

EDIT: Just copy/paste the entire EULA as an "answer", for example.

There's a difference between an assumption-based judgement, and stating an observed, demonstrated fact. You've been doing the former, I merely performed the latter.

88 happy 'Customers' served, and counting...


...not a patch on Pix though

Everything you write stinks of Grade-A Butthurt. Problem being you carry on like you know something, dispite everyone around you explaining 20 ways how wrong you are.

Wonder if any old forum heads remember the "i do things differently" guy? You remind me of him, the way you know nothing about the game or people but think you can educate people all about the game and themselves.

Ten a penny round here, i doubt you'll be here long in the grand scheme of things just like "do things differently" guy.



Not empty quoting.

I agree. In real life, I work in a hospital and work my ass off to save lives. It is stressful and I play Eve Online to relieve that stress.

I pay the subscription to be a douchebag when I feel like it. If someone else doesn't like it, they can do something about it. I kept telling all those mission runners in Umokka to fight back when I kept popping their MTUs. I put the ball in their court to see what they would do.

And do you know what they did???

Nothing.

Truth is, I don't go looking for tears.
Now, if someone is gonna donate em I wont hesitate to haul out the giant bucket to collect them.
What generally motivates me is boredom, profit, the potential for violence and of course practice.
PVE players make great sparring partners.
You never really know what their fit is unless you pop them.
It's also a great way to meet new people.
I'm dead serious about that.
Lots of people rage and fling abuse, even more just silently duke it out... but there are those who want to talk during and after the encounter. Some are curious about the mechanics of what just went down, others are excited because they just got their first real taste of PVP. I actually enjoy chatting with most who're calm and civil about the matter. It's an opportunity to teach them what they did wrong and how to avoid it in the future, to swap some fits for ships and give advice for the days to come.

The MTU is really just a social ice breaker for making new friends in the ever so quiet void.