EVE New Citizens Q&A

your sec standing is going to take a hit.
but you can use an alt to go shopping in hisec.

key is to know what to fight and what not to fight, have fun!

Faction Warfare is sanctioned, though, you won't lose sec. status like a pirate would, as long as you stick to killing only enemy militia players. If you shoot neutrals, you'll take hits. It's a small hit for opening fire, and a big hit for killing the pod.

As far as standings, you gain FW rank points for killing enemy militia players, and at some point that will increase your rank and you'll lose standings with the opposite empires.

The limits are:

-2.0 can't enter 1.0
-2.5 can't enter 0.9
-3 ... 0.8
etc.

Train the Social skills to offset your ratings towards the positive, make it easier to recover. There are several skills in the Social group, and some of them cost millions from the NPC vendors, but they're worth it.

Podding another player in any security above 0.0 will be what really hits your CONCORD standings. Otherwise it's pretty manageable especially if you balance yourself out with some PVE. I haven't gone below 0 standings in a long time. I think I have terrible corporate standings with all 4 NPC Factional Warfare corporations.. that's not the same as the faction standings.

Hope that helps

AFAIK, if you're NOT in a militia, then you're just PVP'ing / a pirate, so the Empires don't care; you won't lose your faction standings.

Even if you're in a militia, you don't lose standings for just shooting / PVP'ing, you just gain ranks and then lose standings for the act of gaining a rank, because the militias and their empires hate each other. So basically without the FW system of military ranks being active, shooting players doesn't affect standings at all.

Just sec. status.

You won't take faction hits, just Security hits. Security hits are relevant at the following levels:

-2.0 - Faction Police spawn on you in 1.0 systems
-2.5 - Faction Police spawn on you in 0.9 systems
-3.0 - Faction Police spawn on you in 0.8 systems
-3.5 - Faction Police spawn on you in 0.7 systems
-4.0 - Faction Police spawn on you in 0.6 systems
-4.5 - Faction Police spawn on you in 0.5 systems
-5.0 - Other players are free to engage you in all space including hi sec. Until then Concord and Gate guns will protect you in both low and hi sec while you are not suspect or criminally flagged.

The most important level is -5.0. You can still enter the relevant high sec at the other levels as it takes time for the Faction Police to spawn and the first thing they do is web you. Another 10 seconds or so before the scram comes on, but then you can still dock or jump a gate. Basically you have to keep moving and I wouldn't try it in anything larger than a cruiser. However, at -5.0 you have to deal with other players.

You take security hits for aggressing on a player ship or pod, not killing them. It is a much bigger hit for the pod (x10 or so), so avoid that by keeping your safety set to yellow. Only an illegal podding is a criminal offense in low sec. However, if the other player fires back at you while you are attacking their ship, you will get a limited engagement timer. You will then be able to pod him at the end without a security hit and with your safety still set to yellow. It varies a bit, but assume a ship aggression will cost you around 0.2 security status, so you can attack around 10 players to get to -2.0 from 0.0 and 25 players before things get really dangerous.

You can raise your sec status by ratting, running regular missions, incursions and some events that kill NPC pirates. But the easiest way is to find or buy Clone Soldier tags and use them at Concorde stations to buy back your security status. There are 4 types of tags and they are used for buying back specific levels of status.

Trainer - found in 0.4 systems and buys back status between -10.0 and -8.0
Recruiter - found in 0.3 systems and buys back status between -7.9999 and -5.0
Negotiator - found in 0.2 systems and buys back status between -4.9999 and -2.0
Transporter - found in 0.1 systems and buys back status between -1.9999 and 0.0

Each tag will buy back 0.5 status and it isn't clipped. eg Your sec status = -5.0034, use a Recruiter tag and it becomes -4.5034, then use 6 x Negotiator tags and it becomes -1.5034, then use 4 x Transporter tags and it becomes +0.4966

You can farm the tags, but note that Clone Soldier NPCs are a lot tougher than regular NPCs and the Negotiator and Transporter ones have warp disruptors. Alternatively, Trainer and Recruiter tags cost (currently) around 1-3M each on the market, Negotiator and Transporter tags cost around 20-25M. It costs an additional 3-6M payment to Concord to actually use them.

You don't even need to run missions if you just care about your sec status. Whenever you kill rats, the game will register the highest bounty rat you kill every 5 minutes and you will gain sec status accordingly. So, technically, you could kill some dude in lowsec, fly to the next belt, kill a battleship rat and keep going. Often times you will also encounter pilots who are either criminals or suspect flagged, and you won't get a sec status hit for those anyway. As long as you don't pod, sec status is really not an issue.

It's not hard to recover; been running level 4 combat missions on a character for about a week (2 hours a day), and went from 2.3 to 3.1 sec. status from killing the NPCs. Used T1 battleship with T1 weapons and with skills at 3, so the missions took a while and I was casual about running them (I looted and salvaged too).

You can probably cut the time in half if you blitz.

It isn't too difficult to manage your sec status, but it isn't this easy.

Killing one NPC BS rat doesn't negate one attack on a player. You will gain something like 0.0015 to 0.0022 sec status per BS rat depending on it's bounty. So it will take about 10 BS, but in low sec the BS aren't that common, perhaps one per 8 belts with a maximum bounty of about 1M. Although you do get a good BS sized bounty and sec status gain from Clone Soldier Cruisers which spawn on average in about 1 in 20 belts. Trouble is you could spend 10 minutes searching 20 belts without success, then get two BS in consecutive belts and the lower one won't count as it is in the same tick (only one sec status gain per 5 minutes).

In short trying to rat up your sec status in low sec belts is pretty inefficient and tedious. You are much better off ratting up your sec status in null or doing high sec L4 missions or incursions.

I would like to make a suggestion. If you can get yourself into a 0.0 corporation/alliance. you wont take any sec hit what so ever. 0.0 Is now full of alpha clones that are willing to test your PvP.

You can move your home station to one of their systems & go from there. If you train the skill Informorph psychology to 1 you can leave a jump clone in highsec & go back and forth as you please. Also I think a lot of the alliances are giving out free ships these days. So you can make the most of it.

This information is pre-crimewatch at least 3 years out of date.

You no longer get seperate sec hits for aggressing and killing. That was the old system. It is now aggression only.

You no longer get a 15 minute per system tick when ratting, That was the old system. It is now a global 5 minute tick.