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Alpha bots lowering the value of LP.

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NofriendNoLifeStilPostin
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-12-27 15:38:42 UTC
Alphas can utilize top end industrial haulers like Mammoth to bot level 4 courier missions.

I suggest restricting them to the first tiers of industrial ships (IE: Wreath) or remove their ability to utilize them altogether.
blargderp
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2016-12-27 15:42:38 UTC
if you suspect them of botting then report them through the proper channels.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2016-12-27 15:47:06 UTC
There are no tiers of ships anymore.

Besides. Apparently an l4 courier mission can be up to 8k, and a wreath with meta expanders is over nine, so...
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#4 - 2016-12-27 15:55:19 UTC
Since the last two covered the rest of what had to say I will simply suggest this.

If they are bots terminate them with extreme prejudice, if ganking is not your thing the try a war dec.
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2016-12-27 16:59:51 UTC  |  Edited by: NofriendNoLifeStilPostin
Danika Princip wrote:
There are no tiers of ships anymore.

Besides. Apparently an l4 courier mission can be up to 8k, and a wreath with meta expanders is over nine, so...


so obviously make it so they can't do that crap. Common sense. Get some.

Some courier missions give approx 1200 LP and over 1 mil isk and can potentially take 1 jump to complete. I know of a few agents where all the missions they give you take 1-3 jumps with a rare 4.

I would estimate its very close to what you would be making per hour doing combat missions, but with zero effort.
blargderp
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-12-27 17:01:51 UTC
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
There are no tiers of ships anymore.

Besides. Apparently an l4 courier mission can be up to 8k, and a wreath with meta expanders is over nine, so...


so obviously make it so they can't do that crap. Common sense. Get some.

Some courier missions give approx 1200 LP and over 1 mil isk and can potentially take 1 jump to complete. I know of a few agents where all the missions they give you take 1-3 jumps with a rare 4.

I would estimate its very close to what you would be making per hour doing combat missions, but with zero effort.


why don't you just do these courier missions if they're so great then?
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#7 - 2016-12-27 17:11:52 UTC
Alphas still need to haul. Not gonna restrict their ability to use capacious haulers because they are running distribution missions.

How is running missions abuse anyways?

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2016-12-27 17:14:41 UTC
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
There are no tiers of ships anymore.

Besides. Apparently an l4 courier mission can be up to 8k, and a wreath with meta expanders is over nine, so...


so obviously make it so they can't do that crap. Common sense. Get some.

Some courier missions give approx 1200 LP and over 1 mil isk and can potentially take 1 jump to complete. I know of a few agents where all the missions they give you take 1-3 jumps with a rare 4.

I would estimate its very close to what you would be making per hour doing combat missions, but with zero effort.


Ban them from using industrials at all? seems a bit harsh, doesn't it?
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2016-12-27 17:43:31 UTC
Daichi Yamato wrote:
Alphas still need to haul. Not gonna restrict their ability to use capacious haulers because they are running distribution missions.

How is running missions abuse anyways?



Alphas don't need to be able to run level 4 courier missions with bots.

You don't necessarily have to restrict them from hauling altogether.

How did you not even read the title of the thread?
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#10 - 2016-12-27 18:40:04 UTC
I did, but you just said 'since we can't tell what a bot is we'll just stop them using certain haulers' Which is ********. Alphas still find use in the larger haulets and there is nothing wrong with alphas running level 4's.

If botting is the problem, focus on the botting rather than blanket nerfing every alpha.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#11 - 2016-12-27 19:25:36 UTC
Fab rod? Is that you??

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#12 - 2016-12-27 19:50:47 UTC  |  Edited by: SurrenderMonkey
Since you neglected to show up with any facts, and a casual review of a selection of some popular LP store items didn't show any appreciable change in their pricing trendlines since Ascension, I'm just going to go ahead and assume that the entire premise of your post is fictional.

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

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PopeUrban
El Expedicion
Flames of Exile
#13 - 2016-12-27 22:53:49 UTC  |  Edited by: PopeUrban
Courier missions are the only legal botting in the game.

Which is why they pay so little.

You click accept mission>Set desitination>activate autopilot

This is literally what you do when MINING is too much effort for you.

Explain to me how this "botting" behavior is against the EULA.
ISD Chanisa Nemes
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#14 - 2016-12-28 15:52:29 UTC
Clearing up some off topic posting. Please be respectful to each other

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Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#15 - 2016-12-29 21:20:25 UTC
Daichi Yamato wrote:
Alphas still need to haul. Not gonna restrict their ability to use capacious haulers because they are running distribution missions.

How is running missions abuse anyways?


Because the OP was probably botting them and now the rewards have gone down as alphas started running them manually.

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