Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'd like to see a reduction in wardecs. I'm not surprised to have my own alliance constantly wardecced, but it gets annoying after a while. Sometimes I just want to be able to fly in highsec like a normal person, but it's rare I get a chance to do that unless I'm way out in the fringes far away from trade hubs. On my alt, I have zero inclination to join a player corp because that 11% tax is a low price to pay for the security offered by being in a NPC corp.

Maybe the price for declaring a war should be increased, or maybe it should have something to do with the size of the corp. I don't know enough about any of the numbers to propose a solution, but I vote that the current amount of wardecs going out should be reduced until it becomes abnormal (less than 50%) for a low-profile corp to be wardecced. Please correct me if that's already the case, it seems to me that it is not.

War Dec cost scales with defender size, when it should scale with attackers size. That's the only issue really.

So once a week, everyone without roles gets kicked so that week's wave of wardecs can go out cheaply, and everyone rejoins the next day.

Yeah, great idea as usual, Nevyn.

I'd like stats on what percentage of active players are in a wardec at any given point in time. Graphs maybe.

The attacker chooses to attack,
The defender doesn't.

So no, the defender would not have to pay to accept new members while at war, just like they DON'T PAY TO RECEIVE A WAR. Seriously. You guys are coming up with the dumbest ideas.

This also isn't a nerf to attackers unless they are specifically picking on smaller corps constantly. Since it would decrease their war costs if they were attacking a larger corporation than themselves. So.... you know that HTFU you just posted, guess what, it applies to anyone that happens to think attackers corp size dictating payment would nerf them.

The OP is right but the other have valid points too.
The thing gets even more complex when you look at the impact on corps, cause it's not the same to every corp. A merc corp might enjoy additional targets, a low/Null corp will not be influenzed at all, a mission corp might get hindered slightly while it will have a massive impact on a mining corp. HS- Mining while under a wardecc isn't the smartest thing to do and there is no way to avoid it other then to shut down the corp. To do the main activity in a NPC corp is contradictional to the very idea of corps as a social entity.

Additional there is no way for the defender to win a blanket wardeck. ONLY the attacker can win because they have the ships and skills (in- and outside of the game) for the fight. Also the attackers have most likely streamlined their corp to minimize any retaliation actions. This is something the defender can't do without skipping the reason for the corp existence.

IMHO 1 week of war is enough. As it was pointed out: everyone has the right to play the game his way so yes, he can wardec someone but the other side also has the right to play their way too and not just pay to be content for the other side. HS-Mining as a play style has the same rights as a wardeccing merc corp.

Simple solution would be doubling the wardec fee after each week, decremental fees so it's more expensive to target small corps and a 1 month cooldown after you dropped a wardec.

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It's basic ******* common sense!!!!!

I only want to PvP when I want to PvP, not when some other guy wants to. I'm sure that's a pretty common attitude, even among pure PvPers. When living in highsec, knowing the basics of PvP helps me keep missioning, even during wardecs.

Yes, wardecs need a revamp. What they don't need is the nerf you're suggesting.

So now tell me why competing miners get denied their rights to play if all the resources are gobbled up by a miner that can't be wardecced anymore. Wars aren't just about getting easy kills, going after helpless victims, and all the other stereotypes that bears use to undercut the socioeconomic power of wars. Why should miners and haulers be able to mine and haul with impunity? The correct answer is, they shouldn't. They should adapt to the reality of EVE Online, and learn how to operate under wardec conditions, if not fight that wardeccer off, or they will die. Yes, people play the way they want to, and sometimes, the way other people want to play is in direct competition with the way you want to play. That is the very PURPOSE of EVE Online, and what makes it a PVP game. You suggestion is that some people have more of a right to play the way they want to than others do, because you're suggesting putting restrictions on one play style in favour of another.

Putting aside the fact that battle ventures are a thing, and bait procurers and orcas are absolutely hilarious and can get some incredible solo kills, you don't need to fit your mining ships for PVP. You just need to pay attention to local, watch for odd behaviour from other players on grid sidling on up beside you, not be afk, and mine away at your own convenience. There's absolutely no need to log off and not play just because you've been wardecced. Most wardeccers are hub and pipe campers, so you just go there on out-of-corp alts when you need access and transfer goods to your main in their home system via contract.

As for 'non-combat corps', there's nothing wrong with being a non-combat corp, but if you choose not to develop an understanding of PVP, that is you making a choice to be a victim, not someone else making you a victim. Everyone playing this game is entirely capable of learning how to PVP, even if all they do is develop enough of an understanding of it in order to evade it. I don't need to think about 'non-combat' corps because there is nothing about the game or what other players are doing to you that makes the choice not to learn one that you don't make yourself.

Knowledge is power. Just a couple of days ago, a carebear running a DED 6/10 in my lowsec ran away from me when I landed on it in my Fleet Typhoon. There was no fight, but he lost anyway by virtue of not being prepared to defend his claim. I then ran his 6/10 and claimed more than half a billion isk worth of loot for myself out of it. And he got nothing. If he'd been prepared for PVP, he might have had not just half a bil worth of loot, but also a shiny Fleet 'Phoon killmail. That's all entirely his loss, because he wouldn't/couldn't PVP.

All that being said, I have a Noctis fit with neuts, dual scram, a hull tank, Warrior IIs, and a cyno, and also loaded up with tractoring and salvaging equipment. I'm always prepared to defend my claim. Always. Oh, and it has killmarks. Don't sit there and tell me that PVE'ers shouldn't have to learn to defend themselves, or can't. The fact is, they choose not to. That choice, and that choice alone, is what makes them a victim, nothing else.

If you constantly experience corps promptly falling apart when you join, because its members are leaving; it might be time to consider that the problem may be you.