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On-Grid Bookmark Creation Jamming for Mobile Scan Inhibitor

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Pleasure Hub Node-514
Pleasure Hub Hotline
#1 - 2016-12-25 08:38:28 UTC
When the Mobile Scan Inhibitor is active, all players on-grid with MSI would be unable to manual add new bookmarks for objects or points in space within grid range (approx 8000km to 20000km grids). Existing bookmarks are unaffected.

For instance, if you come through a wormhole and a MSI is on-grid, you would be unable to click on the wormhole and save location. Scan/Combat Probe for sigs are also blocked to a degree. Signatures brought to 100% resolution can still be warped to at distance between 0km and 100km, however, the 'save location' function on the signature list is blocked if an active MSI is on grid with the target/site. Bookmark jamming would also block the ability to create warp-in bookmark perches that fall on grid range. This means no warping to wormholes at zero from 3500km+ perches.

The MSI itself remains visible on directional scan and can be easily scanned down with combat probes. The structure cannot be re-scooped.

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2016-12-25 12:17:19 UTC
...Why?

Or is this one of those 'make wormhole ratting safer' ideas?
Pleasure Hub Node-514
Pleasure Hub Hotline
#3 - 2016-12-25 19:58:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Pleasure Hub Node-514
Sure it can make things safer to an extent, but it's not going to be ideal for blitz ratting as these things are costly, only last 1 hour, and cannot be rescooped. You can still easily combat probe scan the structure and warp to it from 0km to 100km. So just park yourself in a Stratios and wait for the ratter to come pick up their MTU.

What is does alter significantly, is intel gathering and defense of wormholes themselves.

I see it used either as a compliment or alternative to bubbling WHs. Simple, when you hinder someone's ability to bookmark an exit there is a greater chance to trap them inside if they choose to stay and not burn back to the hole.

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#4 - 2016-12-25 20:28:22 UTC
This sounds like a perfect way to camp wormhole entrances and exits.

Simply set the Scan inhibitor 100km away from a wormhole and put up a bubble around it.

Now people who warp to the scan inhibitor (looking for an entrance / exit) will be nuked on sight.

Never had a chance.
Pleasure Hub Node-514
Pleasure Hub Hotline
#5 - 2016-12-25 21:53:22 UTC
If you have probes you can still scan down the wormhole signature. What the modified MSI does here is prevent you from saving the location. Nothing is preventing you from warping from 0km to 100km on the signature. However, the signature is not on the wormhole itself so you would need to burn to the wormhole.

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#6 - 2016-12-25 22:20:07 UTC
So have both!

A regular MSI (to prevent probing) and your modified one (to prevent any bookmark making).
Pleasure Hub Node-514
Pleasure Hub Hotline
#7 - 2016-12-25 22:36:00 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
So have both!

A regular MSI (to prevent probing) and your modified one (to prevent any bookmark making).

What kind of restrictions would you suggest for the modified one? Unable to deploy mobile warp disruptiors within 50km of MSI?

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Lugh Crow-Slave
#8 - 2016-12-25 23:00:09 UTC
is camping really to hard for you with the current tools?
Cade Windstalker
#9 - 2016-12-26 03:01:36 UTC
I'm wondering why this is needed or what it really adds to the game here. Mostly it feels like a way to troll people with some really really niche potential applications.

On top of that there's no good justification for not being able to make bookmarks of something I'm on-grid with, especially my own ship.