EVE General Discussion

The options are there, they just aren't spoon-fed to you.

Edit: Structure Browser. Just use the 'Market' filter and untick 'any type' under 'Structure Type' to exclude stations.

1) Search for solarsystem in P&P
2) Show info on it
3) Go to Orbital Bodies tab
4) For each citadel in the list, show info, check Services tab, and see if it has the Market service

There. No need to undock or even fly anywhere, you can check any citadel's capabilities from anywhere in the galaxy. As for the falsely named citadels, what probably happened is the citadel ran out of fuel, which causes some services (market included) to go offline.

Oke i guess that app for browsing the structures works`

As for the spoon feeding, how the heck am i supposed to know that there is a thing like the structure browser, i was looking in the industries window and got pretty annoyed it didnt listed the services provided.
Why have 2? why is there a structure tab in the industries window and you have to look at the services of the structures in some app that is hidden away in the drop down menus. at least put that new unknown feature on top, insight.

It is not logical and having 2 windows/apps displaying different stats of the same structure is just backwards.

I think they should add a continuously animated market graph advertisement to the external station billboards.

So that instead of having to dock to check the market button, you can just arrive at 0 km and watch the ads to see if the market animation one is among them.

Yes it does merit some consideration, especially since most of the new players don't know how to find that info.

And how nice of you to edit your original sarcastic reply and give a solution to the OP's issue after it was brought to your attention.

As for stations, it wouldn't be very hard to code a simple tooltip to list all available station services. Hell, there's a damn tooltip for most everything else in game, might as well have one where it would be useful.



DMC

Up until that person screaming at their computer with an open mic caused your ship to start warping. Then it wouldn't be hilarious for you anymore.

That is sarcasm right?, They are working on making it better. But im gone start a new topic with the following ui issue that i have in a moment.
"if i already have a item on the market and go to adjust price on it, the Buy option is above the Modify order one despite me clicking on my own placed order."

It seems like a little thing and i might be in the spectrum but after adjusting a couple thousand prices a day it drives me nuts to click on the buy option accidentally because the sell orders have the buy option on top and the want to buy has the modify option on top..
it is just stupid to offer the option buy before the modify one, i am the one selling stuff!!, but ill save that for the new topic that i am gone start.

The big problem with eve ui is that they have coders or whom ever making the game that seemingly dont know, play or interact in any way with the game, this is why it is highly un-intuitive and incredibly lacking in foresight (How many newbies have you seen in the past 2 weeks that use autopilot to go everywhere because that is what the tutorial tells them to do..?).

Then the ppl who discover a feature hidden in the depths of programming that is eve will go on about how deep the game is and how you shouldn't be spoon fed stuff with out ever wiping the smuck smirk off their face.
I asked all my friends and they are few, no one knew about the structure browser!!

As for the topic on hand, the structure browser, intuitive.
Really? when you have to deselect all to not have the npc stations showing up, no npc station tick box?? what if i only want to select a npc station?
Then you have to hover over the icons to see the stats because displaying the stats right away would cause to much data usage and have to much clear oversight??.


As for the salt in the comments that fanboy earlier made, it really doesn't phase me much as i cant tell the differences between his little short stubby salt shaking and the mountains of salt that i have myself.

Its not perfect.
But they do make regular updates and improvements.

As I said, there is so much information/options available it is difficult to create intuitive systems to access it, with as little clutter/complication as possible.

I agree with many of your observations, but as you pointed out, my saltiness is barely a pinch compared to your Dead Sea.Im optimistic and encouraged to see they do continue to work on it. Overall Im quite happy with the UI.

Im aware there is voice interface software. I dunno if it is against eula/tos.
Id think not, since Id imagine some disabled players would benefit from it.
(However, I can also think of a way it could be used to essentially macro a loop of commands.)

UIs that have this much information/options to deal with will require learning.

The handbook pdf you propose would be looong and I doubt many would bother reading it (unless you enjoy that kind of thing).

Best way to learn the UI is hover over everything, click everything, and look over the hotkey/shorcut keys in the options.
Takes a few hours but EVE learning curve.

I can't think of anyone better suited to the job,, do it DMC!