EVE General Discussion

That's not as bad as deciding to train into armor and shield battleships at the same time hah

I have played wow a couple of times. Now that was a free trial that offered nothing. Like what I think is the case in eve, playing solo gets boring. Playing with people is more interesting. Lack of consequences can make it a bit boring. One big difference, especially if you've already played for a bit, is that if you start a new character, you've got about 30-40 hours or more of boring grind before you reach interesting gameplay. Or you drop ~$50 and reduce the grind to 10 hours. Doesn't seem to be the case here, can jump straight into stuff. On the other hand, in wow you can do everything once that grind is over, you don't need to specialise.

I used to play the secret world, which had the best mission design of any game I've ever played, especially the initial stephen king themed zone. . But never really got into the multiplayer side, nor end game content. Felt more like a single player rpg, like fallout, witcher, etc.

And played a wide assortment of single player games stretching right back to wonder boy on the sega as a kid, one of my most memorable gaming moments was next door neighbour in highschool getting a 486 with wing commander, then on to a lot of diablo 2 & starcraft while at uni (giant old 6 bedroom share house with around 10 computers hooked up to lan ), civ, moo2, etc, etc.

Pace of eve seems decent. So far, I can mostly dictate the pace myself. Do some missions, just cruise through. Do some mining while 75% of attention is focused elsewhere. Try and get through a wormhole to dangerous space on the other side, and the adrenaline is working even if nothing actually happens. Even if the pace is slow, even if nothing actually happens to me, the game creates that tension of not knowing what is out there, not knowing when you might get a nasty surprise. It's similar to what something like the good Silent Hill games managed in that sense, that it can generate excitement by having nothing happen. That may change later. I might get more complacent about the stuff I find dangerous now. I might feel more bored and be reliant on other players being around. Or I might feel that, have learned a bit by then, and so go out solo searching for fights and inspiring in others what I am feeling now.

The combat, what little I've seen of it, appeals to me far more than it does in games like wow. I've never liked FPS games much, I detest wow's pvp. Seems much more about good tactics, about reacting the right way, about the big picture of what's going on, much more than how fast can you click mouse on exactly the right spot on screen, or run in a circle/through the other person so that you're facing them but they're not facing you. When I die, I'm going to be able to think 'ok, I probably did this wrong' and learn from it. As opposed to the wow reaction of 'how stupid is this'.

I think there are strengths and weaknesses to it being such a sandbox. With the obvious weakness to me being that it won't sustain the fun as a single player game. And the obvious strength being that if something gets boring, just go and try something else. That and the emergent gameplay, that everything has consequences, that you don't just get to reload or respawn without cost.

Well then you sure as **** won't like being an omega. then. i've got a 2 month queue lined up to be "halfway competent" at a single ship. and have the next 2 years of training planned out and still won't be even remotely close to being "maxed out"

CCP can't cash shop it's way into profitability like other F2P MMO can. All the cosmetic stuff they managed to sell can be made entirely irrelevant by not going to captain quarter or by zooming out when flying your pimp skinned ship. The whole game model needs to be "sub paywall or bust" since anything else would just cause massive drama.

Hi, you muse be very new, 6 months is nothing for training time.
Just wait until you want to use a T2 battle ship and have a 30 day wait for one skill, or capital ships which take months to use at the most basic of skill.

If 6 months is too long you probably wont last long even as an Omega clone.

I'm hooked that quickly. It's just that if alphas trained at normal speed, then I'd have no incentive to sub right now, as the first 2 months as an omega would be identical to the first 2 months as a full-speed alpha, so there's no benefit to subbing until 2 months down the track.

Almost like it creates an inventive to pay

when I type "lol" I'm not typing LOL it's actually a symbol for when I throw my arms in the air like I just don't care

lol

EVE is a game of patience. Unlike many other games out there a good many EVE players are not younguns. We tend towards the thirty somthings and beyond. It is NOT an instant gratification game, instead lumbering along with the notion of 'good things come to those who wait'.
The daring, the bold, the reckless and the heedless to danger can enjoy all that EVE has to offer with 'relative' speed.
By relative I mean months in EVE are the equivalent to weeks in other games... patience is measured in years.
No matter what, you have to make sure that you set your OWN standards for what you consider high-end or endgame content to be. You then work slowly and inexorably towards said goals.
Nothing is going to be handed to you. There is no free lunch. People will strive to take what is yours from you and it's up to you and you alone to keep them from doing so.
That said, keep on at it. The journey is a trip if you let it be.

The entire point of Alpha is to give you a taste and make you want more, at which point you sub. That's it. That's all it's for.