Player Features and Ideas Discussion

What's wrong with an out of game browser exactly?

It blocks 80% of my visible EVE client, dotlan does not allow me to check systems, set routes, I need to tab out of the game instead of playing the game, I cannot use EVE-Marketdata to open the market for items from within the OOGB (no, CREST ist bullshit and discontinued by CCP) and checking prices with the OOGB wastes so much time compared to the IGB method.
Overlays block my game entirely and I need to turn them off first before I can interact with the game again (Steam Overlay) or they do not support functionalities that the IGB support(ed) (no bookmarks in the Overwolf browser or autocomplete does not recognize .net urls).

Should I continue?

Add more screens and computers. I have an L-shaped desk, 2 computers and more screens than I'll openly admit. I dual box Eve, browse, play another low attention game and I even 'occasionally' do the Taylor Swift challenge (I'll beat it someday ).

Don't blame CCP for your lack of enthusiasm for online gaming. Look within to find the root of your problem.

Is this your first subscription to planet earth? It's hard, unfair and the engagement timers aren't fully defined until the combat is over. You may want to sub to a different reality if you're looking for fair and balanced.

I think it's only reasonable in the crappy world we live in for folks w/ more money and what not to have a better experience. I didn't say just or fair, only that it is reasonable based on the human condition. I will point out that many things on this planet start out just and fair and remain that way until humans get involved - at which point things head for the sewers. For instance the United Nations was a great idea and would do a lot of good for the entire world..... then humans got involved.

AND

the IGB is a huge security exposure. CCP has trouble balancing AF, do you really want them trying to maintain security over a massive portal that allows evil humans access to their internal stuffs? I personally wouldn't consider it until the AF gets an AB bonus. I'm saying that as a WH player that just lost my way of navigating. Needs of the many and all.....

Since the dawn of EVE, the IGB gave all players a leveled playing field in that regard.

A few of you are overlooking the good points the Rivr made. My main reason for wanting a new in game browser, is to add back in the functionality that we lost with Dotlan being ingame.

Did most people not know that you could right click a system in Dotlan and set it as a waypoint or destination? A big part of EVE is travel, and the current system for finding a route/making a route is, like everything else, a convoluted mess. The ingame map is 95% visual 'style' and 5% usability. And if you flatten the map? It's an even larger mess.

If CCP were to create a new, limited browser, with the ability to only visit a few EVE related websites, there would be no security concerns (especially if all ads were permanently blocked). If this is somehow now an impossibility; I would also be happy with a complete revamp of the ingame map, to something more usable. I would like a map like Dotlan, where you can instantly see ALL pertinent info and all stargate connections, within seconds.

Surely this would be time better spent, than a new ship skin...

I'll trade away that level of convenience loss for the level of game security gained any day.

Your comparison is also poorly crafted. A ship skin is a 'one time' investment of resources. A browser needs somewhat continuous attention.

Based on CCP's history on going back and undoing something they have done... the folks involved in this thread already know it's NOT going to happen. Look historically at all the completely bad things they have refused to undo. Does anyone really thing that they will undo the IGB removal (keeping in mind they can honestly claim improved security as a basis).

It's not coming back. My IGB WH mapping tool that my corp literally lived by is gone. The convenience of DOTLAN route setting is gone. It's over.


EDIT ADD: If you get DOTLAN convenience back, do I get my custom home made mapping tool back? If you look at use and need, my mapping tool carries a LOT more weight than you being able to set a route. You can use the in game map for that. You're missing something you don't even need (by virtue of the map having the same functionality). I'm missing something that all WH folks are struggling to replace. We got tossed back to almost the stone age, but you don't see us bitchwhining about it. We working around it. FFS shut up and tab out.

How will CCP pick which select few programs get access? It's clear you won't STFU until you get what you want. Is it OK for me to litter the forums until I get what I want too???

And who decides what these few websites are? Why should dotlan or eve uni be accessible and not the goonfleet wiki or one of the dozens of player made industry sites that don't have the notoriety of your top ten sites?

the problem with the goonfleet wiki, is their reputation for scams, and knowing whether or not the content of their websites is legitimate information. the eve university wiki is far more reliable information.

perhaps the administrators of the sites would have to go through a process to ensure they are reputable and trustworthy/secure, then ccp could allow access to them. It wouldn't be, 'ok these 10 websites are usable and nothing new ever', kind of thing.