EVE New Citizens Q&A

I can now make a bit of ISK from mining using a venture and two tech 2 mining lasers but I am limited with regard to the cargo space available. I would like to get a ship with a lot more cargo space (ore hold not normal cargo). Any ideas?

In game click on the 'Skill Tree' icon and select ORE ships.

Browse the Exhumers and decide which you like best and start training for it. In general, you get good tank and smaller hold or less tank and larger hold. It's up to you to decide your level of risk vs reward.

The other option is to train an Orca pilot and have him sit in the belt for you to offload ore in to. That's a bit of a long train, though.

Mr Epeen

Find friends who run mining fleets. You can improve your efficiency by sharing haulers, and ig you find fleets with boosters you will improve your efficiency further.

If you join a mining fleet you will receive a boost that increases the amount of ore you harvest per unit of time. The exact amount will vary depending on the boosting ship and the skill of the pilot but, in highsec with an Orca expect around 25% improvement.

When you mine, simply jetcan your ore when your hold gets full (throw it overboard!) and name the can. The Orca pilot will use a tractor beam to recover your ore and, depending on the size of the operation,they may have a freighter that hauls it away.

Generally you will be paid for your ore on the spot - buy order pricing from the nearest major trade hub is common.

There are corporations that run mining fleets for their members and I believe there are public fleets anyone can join but I haven't checked recently.

Sidenote: Keep in mind that ore hold and cargohold are different. Cargohold can be increased with things such as rigs and cargo expanders - but ore hold cannot be increased.


Op, you can jetcan mine, sure, but remember that other players can steal the cans if they are willing to have a temporary suspect status.


Also jettisoned cans will last for 2 hours. Naming them as the time they expire can be useful.

So can my Miasmos pick up the 26000 m3 of ore in the jet can if I risk the jetcan in space (I only mine 1.0sec)? Also should I create another character or account to fly the Miasmos? How will this help?

You can't run 2 alpha account at the same time.
Jetcanning help as it reduce travel time and the boredom of warping to station every few minutes, but it isn't much better.

You cannot log in two characters on the same account at the same time. (doesn't matter if the account is Alpha or Omega, same restriction applies)
You cannot log in two Alpha accounts at the same time.

Just mine and take it to a station. The warp time on a venture is going to be low, they're nimble little ships. Create a bookmark of where you were in the belt to warp back to and you have a very short interruption in mining.

The sec status you mine in has nothing at all to do with whether a player can steal from you. They can (and since you've advertised you intend to jet-can mine, expect some visitors).
If they steal from you, they go suspect and you can shoot them. If you do, they can (and probably will) shoot back, the security status of the system doesn't matter.

If you had 2 characters, you would be much better off flying 2 Ventures rather than a Venture and a Miasmos. As mentioned, the Venture is fast - you probably aren't losing more than 1 cycle, maybe 2 when you dock to unload.

Jetcanning works for fleet mining because there will be someone tasked with picking up the cans - you just focus on mining.

OK.

First off, look at your Alpha account as a trial account and not something you are going to want to stay with forever. Certainly not if you want to make a career out of mining.

For right now:

1) You can just mine and return with the Venture. It's simple, straight forward and not that bad a turn around. As mentioned - Save Location on the rocks you are mining and you can warp right back to them. Also - you can continue to use these saved locations the next time you mine. Make sure you fit an ore scanner so you know how much ore is in the rocks.

2) Jet can mining works well if you run a combat or training mission that has some asteroids in it. Don't turn the mission in until you are done mining. Save the location of the rocks, then mine into a jet can. Note the time on the can. When you are getting close to 2 hours - either come empty the can with a hauler - or - jet can a NEW can - and move your ore into it. If you do this in a quiet system you will probably not be bothered by other players. Learn to use your scanner and note if someone is using scanning probes to look for ships. If you see that - leave the mining site and come back with your hauler. They can scan for your ship much more easily than they can for those jet cans. Another tip is to not put the real time on the jet can but something off set - that way you know when it's going to pop but others won't. If someone wants to steal your ore they would rather do it from a full can than an new one. Alternately, by creating new ones every so often - and transferring your ore to them - you can keep that time from being a good reference on how full the jet can is. Of course - none of that helps with most of the people out to jack your can - as they don't want your ore. They'll drop it in a can of their own right in front of you and dare you to take it - which gives THEM the right to shoot you even in high sec. Thus - mining missions in quiet systems.