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Does CCP want me to create 100 Alpha Accounts?
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-12-21 09:41:47 UTC
Observing the festival gifts being not just cosmetic but actually valuable and also be given to Alpha accounts, I'm wondering what's the reasoning behind? So far I was under the impression, as an Omega there is no strong reason to own a peoples amount of Alpha accounts (also recognized the recent ban of mini skill injector farming) ... but with gifts traded at 30-50M given to Alpha accounts, me starts thinking ... What?

... not, I'm too lazy for that kind of "grind" Blink, but it's something IMO not to be ignored.

I'm my own NPC alt.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#2 - 2016-12-21 09:44:55 UTC
According to reddit speculation, that may have been the reasoning behind the gifts of the last couple of days (I don't think alphas received the 300 AUR, but could be wrong).

Apparently, there was a rush on the creation of alphas since the start of the event and CCP had to change the gifts so they could sort it out.

Don't know how true it is, but wouldn't surprise me.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-12-21 10:00:00 UTC
Just curious here: what from gifts we have received already actually trades for 30-50M ISK? Shocked
Not talking about accelerator. I'm pretty sure it will be given only once per event.

We got some skins and avatar stuff and i believe with amount of such items given they will worth less than 1M ISK?

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2016-12-21 10:01:30 UTC
speaking of speculation, it's been said these daily gifts are an attempt at getting players to log in. With the 24 hour timer and all. Problem with that tinfoil is you don't have to log in a character, and you can claim the gift by click and dragging over a portrait in character selection.

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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2016-12-21 10:19:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Tipa Riot
March rabbit wrote:
Just curious here: what from gifts we have received already actually trades for 30-50M ISK? Shocked
Not talking about accelerator. I'm pretty sure it will be given only once per event.

We got some skins and avatar stuff and i believe with amount of such items given they will worth less than 1M ISK?


2x a random skin, which trade at the 30M mark, 1x the booster which trades at 50M today and the 300 AUR yesterday (not confirmed for Alphas), so far ...

If the booster is a one time thing, expect the value to skyrocket, because one will work until January 20th and you need a new one every 2 days.

I'm my own NPC alt.
Gradinger
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-12-21 10:47:00 UTC
that was my thought when i saw the accelerators - but i'm usually too lazy to exploit that kind of stuff - but someone will do it, i'm sure :)
Expendable Unit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2016-12-21 11:01:55 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
Observing the festival gifts being not just cosmetic but actually valuable and also be given to Alpha accounts, I'm wondering what's the reasoning behind? So far I was under the impression, as an Omega there is no strong reason to own a peoples amount of Alpha accounts (also recognized the recent ban of mini skill injector farming) ... but with gifts traded at 30-50M given to Alpha accounts, me starts thinking ... What?

... not, I'm too lazy for that kind of "grind" Blink, but it's something IMO not to be ignored.


So you will be a rich useless alpha clone after doing this for a couple of days? You would still have to upgrade to omega to be useful.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-12-21 11:06:59 UTC
Expendable Unit wrote:

So you will be a rich useless alpha clone after doing this for a couple of days? You would still have to upgrade to omega to be useful.

No, I would be a rich Omega owning an army of Alpha accounts collecting gifts from CCP. Blink

I'm my own NPC alt.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2016-12-21 11:18:54 UTC
Gregorius Goldstein
Queens of the Drone Age
#10 - 2016-12-21 11:51:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Gregorius Goldstein
I only made 8, two of each alpha. With some biology trained that was enough to boost my train until they run out at end of december. (But I admit, a dark part of me wants to make a minion army and roll on a heap of skins and boosters.)
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#11 - 2016-12-21 11:54:30 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
can a veteran character use those accelerators?


Yes. They're worth a little under 22k sp with biology V

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2016-12-21 11:55:42 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
can a veteran character use those accelerators?

You confuse the boosters with the mini skill injectors. The boosters (as with those from all previous events) have no restrictions except the expiration date.

I'm my own NPC alt.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2016-12-21 12:14:22 UTC
Hey thanks.

So if they're good for 22k SP, does that explain why they're valued at around 1/10th of an injector

My first thought was maybe I could use them to fix some off-attribute market skills, but at their price you might as well just inject outright.

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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#14 - 2016-12-21 12:52:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
All this ISK would flow from Omega to Alpha players, if the Alphas would be so clever to make this 100 accounts for valuable cosmetics, and sell all.

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Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
#15 - 2016-12-21 12:59:54 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
Observing the festival gifts being not just cosmetic but actually valuable and also be given to Alpha accounts, I'm wondering what's the reasoning behind? So far I was under the impression, as an Omega there is no strong reason to own a peoples amount of Alpha accounts (also recognized the recent ban of mini skill injector farming) ... but with gifts traded at 30-50M given to Alpha accounts, me starts thinking ... What?

... not, I'm too lazy for that kind of "grind" Blink, but it's something IMO not to be ignored.

They said in the festival announcement that they want to give alphas a chance to catch up a bit.

If they hand out worthless stuff a lot of players will complain.
If they hand out unrestricted, valueable stuff the ingame economy will be damaged.

They found a good middle ground IMO. SKINs are just cosmetic, lore items are fun items with no real value and the cerebral accelerators have a time limit.

The wealthy (compared to alphas) players decide how valuable SKINs and cerebral accelerator are.
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
#16 - 2016-12-21 13:06:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Algarion Getz
Nana Skalski wrote:
All this ISK would flow from Omega to Alpha players, if the Alphas would be so clever to make this 100 accounts for valuable cosmetics, and sell all.

Then prices would drop significantly, which would be good for us omegas.

So go forth alphas and create 1000s of accounts! Earn a bonus if you deliver the items to my home station.

EDIT: They should add the profession gift farmer to the newbie guides. Makes you by far the most ISK/h as an alpha.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#17 - 2016-12-21 13:12:46 UTC
Algarion Getz wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
All this ISK would flow from Omega to Alpha players, if the Alphas would be so clever to make this 100 accounts for valuable cosmetics, and sell all.

Then prices would drop significantly, which would be good for us omegas.

So go forth alphas and create 1000s of accounts! Earn a bonus if you deliver the items to my home station.

Until that would happen redistribution of ISK to Alphas would be very good for Alphas. Overall both sides would be happy.

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Lena Crews
Universal Sanitation Corporation
#18 - 2016-12-21 13:50:55 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
Hey thanks.

So if they're good for 22k SP, does that explain why they're valued at around 1/10th of an injector

My first thought was maybe I could use them to fix some off-attribute market skills, but at their price you might as well just inject outright.


More people feel like they can afford 50M then 600M. Because of that, the price goes up because there's more demand for the product.

The funny thing is if you think about it... the people who can least afford skill injectors are likely the ones who'd benefit most from getting one compared to the accelerator.

If you have less than 5 million sp... 1 skill injector = 22 accelerators.
5-50 million = 18 accelerators
50-80 million = 14
80+ million = 6

So... if the going rate is 1 injector = 12 accelerators.... the price is actually very beneficial to the highest sp players... the ones who are likely able to most easily afford skill injectors.
Salvos Rhoska
#19 - 2016-12-21 14:29:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Go ahead, OP.

If you are prepared to create and cycle through 100 accounts, knock yourself out.

Tbh all players with long term ambitions in EVE should set up atleast 1 account per race (to future proof against changes to ship balance or alpha restrictions), as slow, passive, free SP incubators.

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#20 - 2016-12-21 14:50:11 UTC
I've started two new accts. But I also reactivated twenty old ones.

So, out of the twenty two boosters, I sold enough to make a quick 350M ISK and activated the rest on the ones that are subbed. 350 million is not that much these days.

If you want to make thirty alphas to cycle through every day for the 12 days of the event in the hope of making enough to sub one of them for one month, then all the power to you. You have a lot more dedication than I do.

Mr Epeen Cool
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