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Balancing Faction Standing

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Fleshbits L'Splatter
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2016-12-20 16:01:18 UTC
I've read that you need to take missions from agents of the faction you have low standing with and it will raise faster than the opposed faction will lower as long as you declined missions in which you have to blow up faction ships.

Problem is, I do not know how to identify which missions are asking me to blow up faction ships. I have figured out that "republic" anything are Minmatar ships only after my standing with them is -2.4.

How do you identify which missions require you to blow up faction ships?
Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2016-12-20 16:09:49 UTC
on most missions there will be an icon in the description identifying what faction you will be primarily fighting against. only select missions that have you flying against pirate factions if you want to keep your empire standing high.

other ways to keep your standings up is to run the SOE arc which gives you a decent boost to faction standing without any associated negatives. you can also run the various empires epic arcs, which will boost your standing to them with minimal drop to the others.
Marina Turok
INCHLDCRP
#3 - 2016-12-20 16:12:11 UTC
Google, my friend.

Eve-survival should provide all the info you need on a particular mission.
nezroy
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2016-12-20 16:13:59 UTC
http://eve-survival.org/ gives detailed mission info including what faction standings (if any) will be affected.
mkint
#5 - 2016-12-20 16:16:00 UTC
Avoid killing other factions, train social skills, do cross faction career agents, and if you're feeling super ambitious do COSMOS missions. And yeah, the mission description almost always has the icon of the target faction. And when it doesn't, the description says.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.

Iain Cariaba
#6 - 2016-12-20 16:49:45 UTC
Read the description of the mission when it's given to you. You'll learn where in there it tells you who you're going up against. If you're going against one of the four empires, skip that mission if you don't want to lose standings.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#7 - 2016-12-20 19:43:20 UTC
Kill them all

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

ACESsigepps
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2016-12-20 21:46:28 UTC
Standings are useless unless you're wanting to run Cosmos missions for storyline modules and blueprint copies.

If you need to remind players EVE is a pvp game, there may be an underlying problem rooted so deeply you tend to ignore the obvious.

Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2016-12-20 21:53:02 UTC
ACESsigepps wrote:
Standings are useless unless you're wanting to run Cosmos missions for storyline modules and blueprint copies.

Or use locator agents. Or run missions. Or refine ore. Or not get shot by the faction NPC navy on sight.
Sylvia Kildare
Kinetic Fury
#10 - 2016-12-21 03:10:17 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Kill them all


Let Bob sort them out?
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2016-12-21 09:11:58 UTC
Fleshbits L'Splatter
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2016-12-21 18:50:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Fleshbits L'Splatter
So, I am trying to get back the standing I lost before I knew how to decline missions that involved killing faction ships.
After grinding 16 missions, I got a storyline mission from the Minmatar Republic:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=822839542

It sure looks to me like it will cause me to lose standing with Amarr, completely defeating the purpose.
Do I decline this and do I have to do yet another 16 level 1 missions to get another?

Edit:
Err, maybe this isn't a storyline mission. The storyline ones end up in your email right? I think this is a plain mission offered from a storyline agent.
Cristl
#13 - 2016-12-21 19:04:05 UTC
It is storyline mission, and will screw opposing standings.

Follow DMC's Plan. Also, I bet there are quite a few alphas that might be willing to halve their share of the SOE epic arc faction bonus if you help them kill Dagan.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2016-12-21 19:10:44 UTC
Fleshbits L'Splatter wrote:
So, I am trying to get back the standing I lost before I knew how to decline missions that involved killing faction ships.
After grinding 16 missions, I got a storyline mission from the Minmatar Republic:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=822839542

It sure looks to me like it will cause me to lose standing with Amarr, completely defeating the purpose.
Do I decline this and do I have to do yet another 16 level 1 missions to get another?

Edit:
Err, maybe this isn't a storyline mission. The storyline ones end up in your email right? I think this is a plain mission offered from a storyline agent.

I don't know from the top of my head which missions are storylines, however, if you didn't get an eve mail from an agent that is clearly labeled as storyline agent, then it's just a regular mission. And by the looks of things you would be shooting Amarr, so yes - if you don't want to lose Amarr faction standing, then you may want to decline this one. I would however recommend to read up about the mission on eve-survival.org. There are some missions where you can get away without actually killing any faction NPCs and still finish the mission.
Fleshbits L'Splatter
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2016-12-22 22:21:33 UTC
Holy crap. So, I've spent the last 3 days now running level 1 missions trying to repair the standing. I get +0.1 every story mission. The damn agent has offered me the mission that gives me a hit to Amarr 3 times out of 5 now..... Each time is 16 more normal missions that need to be run. This is ridiculous.


Eru GoEller
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2016-12-22 22:38:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Eru GoEller
Fleshbits L'Splatter wrote:
Holy crap. So, I've spent the last 3 days now running level 1 missions trying to repair the standing. I get +0.1 every story mission. The damn agent has offered me the mission that gives me a hit to Amarr 3 times out of 5 now..... Each time is 16 more normal missions that need to be run. This is ridiculous.



But, you're in wrong space or atleast using the wrong corp and agents if you're trying to mend your Amarr standings.
You need to be doing missions for Amarr or their allied faction Caldari, but focus on doing missions for an Amarr related
corp for now.

Check Eve-agents here: http://eve-agents.com/index.dxd?AgentName=&System=&Region=10000042&Corporation=-&Faction=500003&Division=22&Level=1&Skill=-&Locator=-&Storyline=-&FWAgent=-&Sort=7&Direction=0

Edit: Copy didn't use my selections for Distribution.
Fleshbits L'Splatter
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2016-12-22 23:11:21 UTC
Eru GoEller wrote:


But, you're in wrong space or atleast using the wrong corp and agents if you're trying to mend your Amarr standings.
You need to be doing missions for Amarr or their allied faction Caldari, but focus on doing missions for an Amarr related
corp for now.


I am not. I am mending my Minmatar standings. I just don't want to screw up my standings with anyone else in the process.
Eru GoEller
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2016-12-23 05:22:09 UTC
Fleshbits L'Splatter wrote:
Eru GoEller wrote:


But, you're in wrong space or atleast using the wrong corp and agents if you're trying to mend your Amarr standings.
You need to be doing missions for Amarr or their allied faction Caldari, but focus on doing missions for an Amarr related
corp for now.


I am not. I am mending my Minmatar standings. I just don't want to screw up my standings with anyone else in the process.

Well the bolded bit got me in the wrong direction then, my bad:

"Fleshbits L'Splatter wrote:
So, I am trying to get back the standing I lost before I knew how to decline missions that involved killing faction ships.
After grinding 16 missions, I got a storyline mission from the Minmatar Republic:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=822839542

It sure looks to me like it will cause me to lose standing with Amarr, completely defeating the purpose.
Do I decline this and do I have to do yet another 16 level 1 missions to get another?

Edit:
Err, maybe this isn't a storyline mission. The storyline ones end up in your email right? I think this is a plain mission offered from a storyline agent."



Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#19 - 2016-12-23 08:51:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Sobaan Tali
Storyline missions come from storyline agents, just like any other mission comes from their respective agents. You do get a notification when one is offered and on the table, but apart from that and the fact that the mission rewards you with no LP and yields faction standings, they appear like any other non-storyline mission.

You should also check out this...
http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=BloodStainedStars1multi
...and run that Epic Arc when you can to improve standings with a faction that needs it the most. The game has a hidden 90 day cooldown timer that prevents you from running it constantly, but it's a nice pick-me-up that you can get without jeopardizing your standings with other Empire factions.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."

Sylvia Kildare
Kinetic Fury
#20 - 2016-12-23 18:02:58 UTC
Cristl wrote:
It is storyline mission, and will screw opposing standings.

Follow DMC's Plan. Also, I bet there are quite a few alphas that might be willing to halve their share of the SOE epic arc faction bonus if you help them kill Dagan.


I don't believe the faction standing boost reward from the SOE Epic Arc can be shared with other characters via fleeting up. Only corp standing gains during normal missions. Because storyline faction standing gains/losses are always incurred by the person accepting the mission, not anyone else in fleet.

Fleshbits L'Splatter wrote:
Holy crap. So, I've spent the last 3 days now running level 1 missions trying to repair the standing. I get +0.1 every story mission. The damn agent has offered me the mission that gives me a hit to Amarr 3 times out of 5 now..... Each time is 16 more normal missions that need to be run. This is ridiculous.


Tried to reply to this already but it appears the forums ate my reply. ;_;

In short, the only ways to avoid damaging your standings are:

A) to not run storyline missions... just keep running regular missions (that don't target other empires) and decline ALL storylines.

B) if you want to run storyline missions but you want to keep your standings as even/positive overall as possible with all 4 of the main empires, you'll want to switch between running missions for Amarr, Caldari, Gallente, and Minmatar agents.

This is the path I chose, I periodically run some missions for Cal Navy, then Fed Navy... for Amarr Navy, then Republic Security Services. etc. Because every storyline mission completed = that faction standing rises, the ally faction rises a bit, the opposing factions both drop (the main "enemy" of your mission agent's faction drops more). Now, the gains should be higher than the losses, which is why circulating between all 4 empires = overall raising your standings with all 4 of them over time.

C) SOE Epic Arc will raise your standings with just 1 of the factions at a time (it doesn't boost the other ally faction but it doesn't drain the two opposing factions, either). But as others have said, there's a 90 day timer on it. I tend to try and run it 2-3 times a year at least... running it 4 times a year (the max) is hard to time correctly/remember to do, in my experience.