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Ores are in Alphabetical Order
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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-12-19 13:18:42 UTC
Did any of you ever notice this? The major ores are all in alphabetical order, from top ore to bottom ore:


Arkonor
Bistot
Crokite

Dark Ochre
Gneiss

Hedbergite
Hemorphite
Jaspet

Kernite
Omber

Plagioclase
Pyroxeres

Scordite
Veldspar




The two ores excluded from this list are Mercoxit and Spodumain. Mercoxit yields only morphite, and Spodumain was originally the trashteroid back in the day, serving little purpose other than to provide megacyte for alliances not deep enough in nullsec to have access to Arkonor.

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Zacharyne Kimbyl
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2016-12-19 14:35:17 UTC
Wait, what's happening here? Is this a miner thing?

Are the ores in order of value? Arkonor being the most valued - Veld being the least?
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-12-19 14:53:26 UTC
Zacharyne Kimbyl wrote:
Wait, what's happening here? Is this a miner thing?

Are the ores in order of value? Arkonor being the most valued - Veld being the least?

NPC value, yes. Also by system security status in which they are found. Market values will differ as well as change over time.

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Zanar Skwigelf
HIgh Sec Care Bears
Brothers of Tangra
#4 - 2016-12-19 15:41:45 UTC
Quote:
Spodumain was originally the trashteroid back in the day, serving little purpose


except, you know, building capitals, but I'm sure that's just a sidenote.

Also, "this list totally works as long as you ignore the stuff that doesn't make it work" is kind of odd, don't you think?
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2016-12-19 16:04:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Zanar Skwigelf wrote:
Quote:
Spodumain was originally the trashteroid back in the day, serving little purpose


except, you know, building capitals, but I'm sure that's just a sidenote.

Also, "this list totally works as long as you ignore the stuff that doesn't make it work" is kind of odd, don't you think?

You do realize that when I say "back in the day", I'm talking about before they changed the mineral yields? Spodumain used to have about the same market value as Veldspar. Some people mined it to get megacyte, but most of the larger alliances had sufficient access to Arkonor that they didn't need to waste time mining Spodumain.

Spodumain didn't build capitals, although what little Spodumain was mined probably did find its way into the much larger stashes of minerals from other sources that were going to be made into capitals.


edit:
Even Bistot gave more megacyte than Spodumain, and it also gave a good yield of zydrine. Spodumain gave a bit of megacyte and mere traces of anything else.

Relative yields of megacyte and zydrine back in the day:
Arkonor: . . . .104 // 32
Bistot: . . . . . . 53 // 67
Crokite: . . . . . . 0 // 104
Spodumain: . . 35 // 0.0

Total yields:
Arkonor: 136
Bistot: 120
Crokite: 104 (plus unlisted Nocxium)
Spodumain: 35

Spodumain was trash.

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Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2016-12-19 16:07:29 UTC
Zanar Skwigelf wrote:


Also, "this list totally works as long as you ignore the stuff that doesn't make it work" is kind of odd, don't you think?


Actually, outliers are often ignored in analyzing data.

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mkint
#7 - 2016-12-19 18:45:33 UTC
I thought this was common knowledge, at least among anyone who's not a rookie. I mean the fact that the top 3 are known as "ABC ores" is a pretty big hint.

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Salvos Rhoska
#8 - 2016-12-19 18:54:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
What about Spurdomium and Spärdecite?
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Memphis Baas
#9 - 2016-12-19 21:35:40 UTC
It's not a miner thing, it's a CCP thing. They named the asteroids that way, back in 2003.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#10 - 2016-12-19 23:19:36 UTC
old news... why do you think miners want ABC's? =)

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Scarlett LaBlanc
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2016-12-20 00:08:05 UTC
Has Omber ever fit into that mold?

It was bottom of the heap in 2008 when I started and I think it has been there the entirety of the last eight years...
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2016-12-20 06:18:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Scarlett LaBlanc wrote:
Has Omber ever fit into that mold?

It was bottom of the heap in 2008 when I started and I think it has been there the entirety of the last eight years...

Omber was trash when I started mining, also, but it has varied a lot. Usually month-old miners are the most up to date on ore values, us vets expect the trends to have not changed. But talk to new miners and you'll get different stories every time. Funny thing is, most of them are correct. Ore value ratios are constantly in flux. Omber may have often been trash, but every once in a while it's one of the top highsec ores.

I used to think with the availability of Kernite, that Plagioclase and Omber could never be the top highsec ore. But the prices of mexallon and isogen (especially isogen) fluctuate so drastically over the years that I've been able to witness more than one occasion in which either one was the top highsec ore. Kernite, oddly enough, is often not the top highsec ore.

Once upon a time, before Operation Unholy Rage, large numbers of free accounts were run by bots, taking industrials out to lowsec to mine the rich nocxium ores. Players would shoot them down, but there were so many of the bots, the players would give up and just let them mine. They crashed the nocxium market and continued to mine even after it crashed, running on so little maintenance their operators couldn't even be bothered to send them to highsec. Jaspet, Hemorphite, and Hedbergite they continued to mine, until the galaxy was so flooded with nocxium that player miners were throwing it in the trash. Back in those days, many players (even highly experienced veterans) didn't realize the extent of the impact of the bots, and believed that lowsec ores were actually just plain junk--much as I once believed that Omber was just plain junk. I believed that about one year before the price of isogen skyrocketed from 20 ISK to 80 ISK, and Omber overtook Kernite by a substantial margin. Today, lowsec ores are usually much more valuable than highsec ores, despite vast alliances mining to their heart's content with nearly zero opposition in lowsec.

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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2016-12-20 07:27:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Shae Tadaruwa
Zacharyne Kimbyl wrote:
Wait, what's happening here? Is this a miner thing?

Yep seems to be.

Some observation that isn't actuslly true, so some made up reasons to exclude the ores that don't make it fit.

Second most useless thread of the year.

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