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Khannea Sun-Tzu
EBSTF Holdings
#1 - 2016-12-18 17:09:14 UTC
It is time for the introduction of a second type of titan for each of the four main factions.
Slayer Liberator
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2016-12-18 17:13:58 UTC
Khannea Sun-Tzu wrote:
It is time for the introduction of a second type of titan for each of the four main factions.




What would it do exactly that the current titans could not do?
Iain Cariaba
#3 - 2016-12-18 17:16:59 UTC
Delete all supers.
PopeUrban
El Expedicion
Flames of Exile
#4 - 2016-12-18 18:29:20 UTC
Just what EVE needs. More supers. Roll
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#5 - 2016-12-18 21:05:04 UTC
I'd be all for it if we got rid of those hideous lag and tidi creating fighter/heavy fighter throwing-up monstrosities called carriers and super carriers.

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Lugh Crow-Slave
#6 - 2016-12-18 21:23:05 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Delete all supers.



delete all idiots




any way why, what for, what role is needed that they would fill?

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Lugh Crow-Slave
#7 - 2016-12-18 21:23:57 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
I'd be all for it if we got rid of those hideous lag and tidi creating fighter/heavy fighter throwing-up monstrosities called carriers and super carriers.



tends to be just as much with out them... in fact iirc drone boats are a heavier load than carriers

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#8 - 2016-12-19 01:49:16 UTC
As far as I know the Guristas, Mordus, angel cartel, blood raider, Sansha might get a pirate titan and supers.

I call dibbs on the first Guristas super muahahahaha.

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This is the law of ship progression!

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Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2016-12-19 03:52:59 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Delete all supers.



delete all idiots


That's all well and good, but we would still be stuck with supers.

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Lugh Crow-Slave
#10 - 2016-12-19 04:03:23 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Delete all supers.



delete all idiots


That's all well and good, but we would still be stuck with supers.


Supers ain't nothing but targets

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2016-12-19 12:44:17 UTC
Khannea Sun-Tzu wrote:
It is time for the introduction of a second type of titan for each of the four main factions.





Yes we need more ships which are ridiciolus overpowered in big groups.


remove those ships or rebalance them properly!

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2016-12-19 14:57:26 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
I'd be all for it if we got rid of those hideous lag and tidi creating fighter/heavy fighter throwing-up monstrosities called carriers and super carriers.



tends to be just as much with out them... in fact iirc drone boats are a heavier load than carriers


5 drones instead of 3 and much easier to field in large number. Crushing a node with supers would need hundreds of supers in the system. While it can be achieved, they are still somewhat rare if you compared to characters that could run a 5 drone doctrine ship.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#13 - 2016-12-19 15:33:24 UTC
Supers field 5 groups of up to 10 fighters with all sorts of fancy special abilities, weapons and missiles.

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SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#14 - 2016-12-19 15:50:44 UTC  |  Edited by: SurrenderMonkey
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Supers field 5 groups of up to 10 fighters with all sorts of fancy special abilities, weapons and missiles.


Supers field 5 groups. The "Up to 10 fighters" part is irrelevant.

The group is the only entity being tracked by the server. The individual fighters are just a number in the stats for the fighter group - it's literally no different than HP, tracking, or any other stat.

I'd be surprised if they cause more load on a per-unit basis than normal drones. They're a little fancier, yes, but the code is newer, likely better optimized, and they have no AI.

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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#15 - 2016-12-19 16:18:01 UTC
Khannea Sun-Tzu wrote:
It is time for the introduction of a second type of titan for each of the four main factions.


Why? *any* capital or super are already the most boring thing to fly in game...
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2016-12-19 16:21:36 UTC
Khannea Sun-Tzu wrote:
It is time for the introduction of a second type of titan for each of the four main factions.





I spent as much time formulating my response as you did your request, and will include the same level of detailed reasoning that you did.

Ahem...

No.

Thank you.

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#17 - 2016-12-19 16:52:11 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
I'd be surprised if they cause more load on a per-unit basis than normal drones. They're a little fancier, yes, but the code is newer, likely better optimized, and they have no AI.

I doubt that because these fighters use a lot more mechanics and weapons, which require a lot more range and damage application calculations, than AI powered drones.

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SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#18 - 2016-12-19 17:13:36 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
I'd be surprised if they cause more load on a per-unit basis than normal drones. They're a little fancier, yes, but the code is newer, likely better optimized, and they have no AI.

I doubt that because these fighters use a lot more mechanics and weapons, which require a lot more range and damage application calculations, than AI powered drones.



Not really - the individual activation calculations themselves are likely no different (same basic inputs, different values). Their attack cooldowns are longer than normal drones, so net activations really isn't much higher, either, especially with rearming required.

About the only thing that is likely to be more expensive is the bomb launch on the long range heavies.

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