Player Features and Ideas Discussion

how about a capital ship that can field 8 anti sub cap guns, but no siege mod, and can use capital mods and rigs but have about 200,000 hit points with maxed out tank? it is an idea that may or may not make sense but the idea from this post is a bit more of a on paper idea

how about a capital ship that can field 8 anti sub cap guns, but no siege mod, and can use capital mods and rigs but have about 200,000 hit points with maxed out tank? it is an idea that may or may not make sense but the idea from this post is a bit more of a on paper idea

how about a capital ship that can field 8 anti sub cap guns, but no siege mod, and can use capital mods and rigs but have about 200,000 hit points with maxed out tank? it is an idea that may or may not make sense but the idea from this post is a bit more of a on paper idea

Yeeeeaaah... umm... here is the thing:

Speed and mobility are preferred over massive walls of HP that are "rooted" in one place for 5 minutes.

Hint: This is why many people have an issue with the Rorqual's new PANIC system. They want to be able to get their ship out ASAP, but the new system roots the ship down until support can arrive to save it.
So the solution many have employed is to not use Rorqual at all and instead use the new Porpoise ship (which is very mobile).

This is also why battleships, which do pretty much what you are asking for (but on a paired down level), are generally passed over unless there is a structure bash and/or large amounts of RR involved.

And even then... HACs (with a quarter of the HP of battleships) are usually preferred. They can maneuver around the battlefield more easily and GTFO relatively quicker.


I would personally LOVE to fly around a highly mobile ship that can deal dreadnought level DPS. And I certainly would not limit my targets to capital ships.
I would use it for EVERYTHING.

Why?
Because all I would need to melt any subcaptial ship is range (which your limited targeting range would not stop me from achieving) and a few well placed shots (which proper maneuvering will get me).


And no... lack of tank would not be much of an issue.
I have flown in cruisers and battlecruisers that have had minimal tank, but high speed and damage potential.
As long as you keep speed up and keep your fleet scattered but within each other's firing range... you can nuke anything that threatens your group die in seconds.

This idea would make that tactic grossly effective.

This is less a rock-paper-scissors game and more a game in which the slightly larger ship wins. If your ship is a bit smaller than your opponent's ship, you will usually lose that fight. But if you're a lot smaller, you can skate by and give them a pressed fruit bowl as you pass.

Your destroyer has little to fear from Danica's Nyx, so why are you so bent on taking it down with a destroyer? Give the poor girl a break.





Here's the way it works:
Titan beats Supercarrier
Supercapital beats Capital
Dreadnought beats Carrier
Dreadnought and Carrier beats Battleship
Battleship beats Battlecruiser
Battlecruiser beats Cruiser
Cruiser beats Destroyer
Strategic Cruiser beats Destroyer
Strategic Cruiser beats Cruiser
Strategic Cruiser beats Battlecruiser
Strategic Cruiser beats Battleship
Strategic Cruiser beats Pirate Faction Battleship
Strategic Cruiser beats two Pirate Faction Battleships at once
Destroyer beats Frigate
Interceptor beats Frigate
Caldari and Amarr beat Gallente
Minmatar beats Everybody
Nobody beats Interceptor
Claw is the only invincible ship in the game.


If you want to beat a ship with stuff the same size or smaller, you have to gang up in superior numbers. Two titans beats one titan. A thousand frigates beats Marlona Sky's Moros. A few hundred Pandemic Legion strategic cruisers beats ten thousand frigates. A dozen TEST capitals beats a hundred IT capitals. It's all a game of numbers.