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Question About Christmas Presents and Future of Eve
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Equto
Imperium Technologies
Dracarys.
#1 - 2016-12-18 03:34:58 UTC
I have to ask this question and would love a develop response but possibly someone else can explain it to me as I don't see the logic in it currently. I don't mind getting gifts and certainly in the past many of them have been funny and poked at Eve's history, but now it appears we are getting clothes for our Eve avatars that at one point was for Walking In Stations(WiS). A short history lesson for those that don't know, WiS was suppose to be a joint project between Eve, Dust 514, and World of Darkness. However World of Darkness was cancelled and Dust 514 has been shut down and after problem in Eve a few years ago WiS was all but cancelled with us only getting 4 themes captains quarters. However now its been a few years and there is no update from what I can see on WiS or the captains quarters and the Eve avatars are essentially constricted to the small photo you create. Beyond the lack of updates and integration with the rest of Eve it appears that the option to enter the captains quarters are getting removed with the new citadels and if not for all of eve at least for null-sec.

Given the lack of updates and integration or future vision at this point I have to ask the question I opened this thread for. Why are we getting Eve Avatar clothes if its essentially being phased out slowly?
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#2 - 2016-12-18 03:44:53 UTC
wut?

if you receive a 'gift' the only thing you need to do is say 'thank you'.

don't make things complicated.

and no, WoD was never meant to integrate w/ EvE although it would be cool if im a sin-eater. :)

Just Add Water
Equto
Imperium Technologies
Dracarys.
#3 - 2016-12-18 03:49:22 UTC
Nat Silverguard wrote:
wut?

if you receive a 'gift' the only thing you need to do is say 'thank you'.

don't make things complicated.

and no, WoD was never meant to integrate w/ EvE although it would be cool if im a sin-eater. :)

No, it wasn't suppose to integrate story wise with eve but the technology was suppose to be shared across the 3. With 2 of the 3 dead why develop the technology anymore ?
Alea
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2016-12-18 04:04:37 UTC
Never liked the idea of WiS, dress up barbie or skins nobody but the pilot will see, all a waste of effort but the later two helps CCP make RL monies so more power to 'em as I wanna play another 13 years, WiS can die completely as far as I'm concerned cuz I won't miss what I never use.

Whomever is making the last few years decisions on what changes are to be implemented in this game, must hate Eve with all their being.
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#5 - 2016-12-18 04:07:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Nat Silverguard
why the hell not?

i dont see the problem....

edit: to clarify, i am also against WiS, but i like having 'clothes' for our character here in EvE.

Just Add Water
Alea
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2016-12-18 04:17:33 UTC
I'm not against WiS it could go full bore and I could care less as I never use it, I'm a guy so dressing up my toons is nowhere on my "to do list" so clothes is also something I have no use for as I never use that feature either.

This is just my opinion as it's clear allot of other players like playing dress up barbie and buying skins that only they will see, it's just stuff I have zero interest in that's all.

Whomever is making the last few years decisions on what changes are to be implemented in this game, must hate Eve with all their being.
Equto
Imperium Technologies
Dracarys.
#7 - 2016-12-18 04:18:11 UTC
I mean the problem seems to be everything pointing it its removal and yet still a push to give us items towards it. You can play dress-up barbie for a little while but why is CCP still producing and handing out clothes for it if the ultimate plan is to remove it. I personally was for WiS not because of dress-up (which I could see bringing in extra money) but rather for role-play, immersion, and the ability to introduce otherwise incompatible ideas such as bars and board games.
Alea
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2016-12-18 04:43:43 UTC
The only (main?) reason a person can buy clothes and skins is for profit, CCP makes a little extra money and we can continue to play Eve, WiS has very little to nothing to do with those I would think.

Whomever is making the last few years decisions on what changes are to be implemented in this game, must hate Eve with all their being.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#9 - 2016-12-18 05:04:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Sobaan Tali
Alea wrote:
The only (main?) reason a person can buy clothes and skins is for profit, CCP makes a little extra money and we can continue to play Eve, WiS has very little to nothing to do with those I would think.


Bingo. Someone's been paying attention.

The truth is that while some have stated they would be completely on-board with furthering WiS in Eve, far more people would completely **** on CCP for even bringing it up. On top of that, especially considering what people routinely seem to have the gall to ***** about now, we've shown CCP absolutely no reason to believe such an attempt would net any different a reaction from us today. The clothes and SKINs are a happy compromise that gets CCP some side income, gives the players who like to personalize their avatars and ships some ways to do so, and no one's up in arms over it...everyone wins a little. WiS would just upset too many folks for CCP to be willing to work on it more.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#10 - 2016-12-18 10:51:56 UTC
Alea wrote:
I'm not against WiS it could go full bore and I could care less as I never use it, I'm a guy so dressing up my toons is nowhere on my "to do list" so clothes is also something I have no use for as I never use that feature either.

This is just my opinion as it's clear allot of other players like playing dress up barbie and buying skins that only they will see, it's just stuff I have zero interest in that's all.


"I'm a guy" has to be the dumbest possible reasoning. I'm a guy and I love getting nice clothes for my characters.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
Mr Duffo
SQUIDS.
#11 - 2016-12-18 11:03:50 UTC
Gotta look good in those killmails

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Never forget! #OICXmassacre2014
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
#12 - 2016-12-18 11:18:47 UTC
Alea wrote:
I'm not against WiS it could go full bore and I could care less as I never use it, I'm a guy so dressing up my toons is nowhere on my "to do list" so clothes is also something I have no use for as I never use that feature either.

This is just my opinion as it's clear allot of other players like playing dress up barbie and buying skins that only they will see, it's just stuff I have zero interest in that's all.

Who cares.

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Vigirr
#13 - 2016-12-18 11:21:25 UTC
OP, stop having dumb ideas.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#14 - 2016-12-18 11:54:59 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
Alea wrote:
I'm not against WiS it could go full bore and I could care less as I never use it, I'm a guy so dressing up my toons is nowhere on my "to do list" so clothes is also something I have no use for as I never use that feature either.

This is just my opinion as it's clear allot of other players like playing dress up barbie and buying skins that only they will see, it's just stuff I have zero interest in that's all.

Who cares.


Shocked Mr. Miyagi?

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Flamespar
WarRavens
#15 - 2016-12-18 12:02:37 UTC
Because blah blah CCP blah blah EVE is dying blah blah gimme your stuff
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#16 - 2016-12-18 12:16:38 UTC
Vanity items like clothing and skins are very low cost once the tooling is in place to make them and they have no impact on game balance. An ideal gift from CCP's point of view.

All the gifts so far appear to be aimed at Alpha players and the ability to personalize their characters and ships may help keep them invested in the game.

WIS may have made sense when the intention was to share the code between 3 games but the feature was not central to any of the games and was an obvious candidate for the chopping block when CCP overextended themselves a few years back. Now, two of the games are gone and CCP have learned to pick their battles and focus on features that are central to the game most of us login to play.
Maekchu
Doomheim
#17 - 2016-12-18 13:10:06 UTC
Clothing is still viable on our character portraits.

At least all upper clothing... I wear no pants :D
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#18 - 2016-12-18 13:17:46 UTC
Alea wrote:
I'm not against WiS it could go full bore and I could care less as I never use it,
It's couldn't. You couldn't care less.

It just irks me when I see these common phrases turned upside down.

Mr Epeen Cool
Alasdan Helminthauge
AirHogs
Hogs Collective
#19 - 2016-12-18 14:30:01 UTC
Maekchu wrote:
Clothing is still viable on our character portraits.

At least all upper clothing... I wear no pants :D


When I created a character, the server said that he must wear pants Sad
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
#20 - 2016-12-18 15:12:25 UTC
I was about to make a similar thread. WiS was abandoned 5 years ago and CCP is still making apparel for it. Why? Dressing fancy is useless when other players cant see it. I havent used the character editor since Incarna was released ...

Are there really players who spend money on apparel?

IMO the devs who make the apparel should make assets for space. Everyone can see them and there is plenty of work to do. Many of the existing assets are really old and could use a refreshment and additional assets would add more variety.
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