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CCP, you Customer Service is Literally WORSE THAN COMCAST!!!!

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Sanai Nobuseri
Into the Ether
Out of the Blue.
#1 - 2016-12-17 07:36:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Sanai Nobuseri
I love eve, I love the community, But any interaction with CCP staff is just crappy. Ive put in multiple tickets one is 2 months old and was just ignore, another I put in a month ago and provided screenshots and details of evidence and everything IN THE TICKET, and the gm asked me for everything I already sent and didnt even bother to read it. I replied it was all there and then they just cloed my ticket AFTER MAKING ME WAIT 3 WEEKS!!!! You all need some kind of help line, or a way to interact with GM's that isnt total bullshit.

In my case, I lost an instawarp interceptor that was blapped by an instalocking incursion rat which whould not have happened which sucks but whatever.

The second and the one that im really pissed off about is I did not get my x2 Gnosis and Sunesis ships on my account. I have been subscribed for 5 years ANd pay for my eve time in 3-6 month incriments. And when I put my ticket in and provided proof the GM just totalt ignored me and said a robotic answer you didnt get it because you have to be subscribed. I BLOODY WAS!!!!! And then he closes my f'ing tickt.

I have been a loyal fan of eve for 10 years, playing almost non stop on 1 account or another. Please for the love of God fix your **** and I cant say "Or else I will go to another game" because im F'ing addicted. But the least you can do is HELP YOUR CUSTOMERS!!!

kthanx
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#2 - 2016-12-17 07:55:27 UTC
OP, I would like to assume that the way you interact with the GMs in your ticket is much more pleasant than this rant, but if by any chance the language in your tickets is similar to this post, then I can totally understand why CCP would just close your tickets and not reimburse.

By the reimbursement policy you wouldn't be entitled to anything anyway (based only on what you've put here) as strictly speaking the policy only applies if there is a server issue.

However, you can often get ships reimbursed by CCP. I've always found them to be really good. Sorry your experience isn't the same.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-12-17 08:37:33 UTC
Test alliance, saltiest alliance?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2016-12-17 08:39:44 UTC
So you've played EVE for five years, and this is the first problem you've had with their customer support in that time, which happens to coincide with the introduction of Alpha clones and an influx of new players all filing tickets of their own, causing a backlog, and this one incident in five years makes them worse than COMCAST, with whom you can experience even worse customer support on a daily basis?

Sure mate, sure. I'm detecting a subtle variant of Godwin's Law here.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2016-12-17 09:25:49 UTC
Godwin's second law: When comparing others with HitIer just isn't enough, they will eventually be compared with Comcast.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Salvos Rhoska
#6 - 2016-12-17 10:38:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
1) Dunno if ticket nr 1 is legit.

2) Dunno whats up with ticket nr 2. Possibly there is some technicality in the reward rules that you overlooked.
For a fee of 100mil isk I can look into it for you, 50 upfront and 50 on delivery.

Remember that GMs and Customer Support are people first, and employees second.
If you treat them in ways below their human dignity, they will more likely than not give you a hard rime in return.

Id argue that polite and respectful behavior is the single most important thing a client can do to ensure maximum return on their issue.
Vigirr
#7 - 2016-12-17 11:02:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Vigirr
request for ship reimbursements should be automatically declined by GMs. CCP needs to go back to the "lol, get rkt" attitude.

Never had any problems with GMs, probably because I had well worded and reasonable requests.
Izchadie
Ministerstvo na otbranata
Ore No More
#8 - 2016-12-17 11:11:40 UTC
Priorities everywhere. Let's see: you lost ceptor and who knows why 2xGnosis and a Sunesis, which cost in total less than 150 mil ISK.

Can you play the game? Yes

Is your character stuck? No

In every ticketing system that'll send ya right to the bottom. Priority: low.
A GM is a person, who upon opening your ticket reads it carefully and if you use the same tone there...Well, good luck, mate!
Like people said, politeness will get you far. I've been helped even when I wasn't right.

I have been working as a customer support for 11 years, in my country ranting might have worked sometimes, but I am sure Iceland ain't one of those.

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#9 - 2016-12-17 11:31:11 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:


2) Dunno whats up with ticket nr 2. Possibly there is some technicality in the reward rules that you overlooked.
For a fee of 100mil isk I can look into it for you, 50 upfront and 50 on delivery.




Probably best you don't insinuate that you are a GM, however much in jest, unless you want (another) forum vacation

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Salvos Rhoska
#10 - 2016-12-17 12:36:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Bumblefck wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:


2) Dunno whats up with ticket nr 2. Possibly there is some technicality in the reward rules that you overlooked.
For a fee of 100mil isk I can look into it for you, 50 upfront and 50 on delivery.




Probably best you don't insinuate that you are a GM, however much in jest, unless you want (another) forum vacation



Thanks for the advice.

I havent insinuated I am a GM.
To make this explicitly clear, I am not a GM.

I offered that I can look through what has been made available of the rules to see if OP overlooked something.
I'd just read through them and write up a report of them for OP including an analysis and summary.
Nothing wrong with that.

You are insinuating that I have previously received a forum vacation for impersonating a GM. That is false.
gfldex
#11 - 2016-12-17 12:47:37 UTC
Sanai Nobuseri wrote:
The second and the one that im really pissed off about is I did not get my x2 Gnosis and Sunesis ships on my account. I have been subscribed for 5 years ANd pay for my eve time in 3-6 month incriments. And when I put my ticket in and provided proof the GM just totalt ignored me and said a robotic answer you didnt get it because you have to be subscribed. I BLOODY WAS!!!!! And then he closes my f'ing tickt.


Petition the GM in question. He clearly doesn't want to work there.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.

Maekchu
Doomheim
#12 - 2016-12-17 13:02:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Maekchu
Sanai Nobuseri wrote:

In my case, I lost an instawarp interceptor that was blapped by an instalocking incursion rat which whould not have happened which sucks but whatever.


You probably lost it cause you ****** up or your internet/connection to the servers had a hiccup. All of which, is really out of the influence of GMs and not really worthy a ticket. Just accept the loss, instead of spamming the ticket system with non-sense tickets. You are the very reason why the ticket system is overloaded, because people submit whatever issue thinking they will get reimbursed. "Oh no, my wifi router is setup wrong so my connection is unstable. I lost a ship cause eve lagged. GM PLZ HALP!"

Sometimes you just gotta accept the internet is not perfect and **** happens. When you lose something as inconsequential as an intercepter, I'd say just shrug your shoulders and move on

Sanai Nobuseri wrote:
Ive put in multiple tickets ...


In addition to spamming the system with crap issues, you also submit multiple instances of the same issue. This has been stated by CCP support, that such behavior results in way longer response times. Just wait patiently, especially when your issue is low priority nonsense.

In regards to the gifts, I'd submit another ticket asking for another review. The system is automated and I'm sure no one have manually gone out of their way for you not to receive your gift. Maybe this time, formulate your ticket in a civilized manner, then maybe the GM will want to help you.

With that being said, I'm sure you are not telling us the whole truth and that there is a reason for why you don't receive the gifts as all the normal subscribers have.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2016-12-17 14:11:18 UTC
CCPs support is not up to snuff really. I work in tech support myself, and where we usually respond in less than 20 minutes, and have a solution in a couple of hours at most, CCP typically takes days. However, I would say that they probably have higher support load than we do, especially at the moment. And even if that's not the case, and they are just slacking a bit, it's just like others said before: They are just human beings first and foremost, and all that hinges on your ticket is a virtual asset in an internet spaceship game. And not even a very valuable one by the looks of things. It's not like your life or your business hangs in the balance because you didn't get a free Gnosis and lost your crappy little interceptor.

The tickets I get daily, full of entitlement, incompetence and ignorance, illiteracy and downright stupidity frequently make me want to jump in front of the next train. And our customers are supposed to be reasonable adults, professionals who know what they are doing. In Eve, that's not the case, so I would imagine it to be much, much worse. I can sympathize with every supporter up there, sitting in the dark and cold for half a year, dealing with angry, entitled online gamers all day. I'm really surprised they don't literally tell you to suck it up and **** off more frequently.
Expendable Unit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#14 - 2016-12-17 17:42:47 UTC
I wanna have this, I wanna have that.... if I don't have it, I will throw myself on the floor and yell really loud, even if I know mom will ignore me in the supermarket....
ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#15 - 2016-12-17 17:47:24 UTC
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