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MAKE EVE GREAT AGAIN!

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Salvos Rhoska
#41 - 2016-12-15 23:00:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Salvos, it's not a poll.


Then what is it?

I am aware of the difference between a vote and a poll.
Polls are for purposes of statistical analysis, votes are for decisions on enactment by empowered individuals.

The "vote" in question, is a a poll.
Demonspawn 666
State War Academy
Caldari State
#42 - 2016-12-15 23:04:23 UTC
voted...

again!


Anyone else notice the glaring error?

Star Citizen in 'Most anticipated 2017' category............ how many years has it been in that category now? Big smile

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2016-12-15 23:05:55 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Salvos, it's not a poll.


Then what is it?


It's not poll in the sense that it's testing which way the vote is going to go, as you alluded to. Is that better?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Salvos Rhoska
#44 - 2016-12-15 23:08:18 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Salvos, it's not a poll.


Then what is it?


It's not poll in the sense that it's testing which way the vote is going to go, as you alluded to. Is that better?


You are not "voting" for anything in this instance.

You are merely giving a response to a poll.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2016-12-15 23:11:43 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Salvos, it's not a poll.


Then what is it?


It's not poll in the sense that it's testing which way the vote is going to go, as you alluded to. Is that better?


You are not "voting" for anything in this instance.

You are merely giving a response to a poll.


Oh really? So, responses to polls aren't considered voting?

I suggest you get a dictionary and check the definitions of the words you're using here, because you're arguing semantics. You alluded to the US pre-election polls as if this was something similar. It's not, it's that simple, but if you want to argue semantics and let Hello Kitty win instead of just going over there and voting for EVE, then please, feel free to waste your own time doing so, but I'm not going to argue this pedantic rubbish with you. Call it whatever you like. Just vote for EVE. Thanks.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Salvos Rhoska
#46 - 2016-12-15 23:14:41 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:

Oh really? So, responses to polls aren't considered voting?.


Correct.

Albeit ignoring the "considered" factor in your wording, which is subjective and irrelevant.

Yes, responses to polls are not voting. Period.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2016-12-15 23:17:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:

Oh really? So, responses to polls aren't considered voting?.


Correct.

Albeit ignoring the "considered" factor in your wording, which is subjective and irrelevant.

Yes, responses to polls are not voting. Period.


So, by your own definition, the race for best MMO is not a poll, since people are voting there. Awesome, glad we cleared that up. Now go vote for EVE.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
#48 - 2016-12-17 15:52:20 UTC
EVE is fading fast in the voting!

Warframe - 7008

Guild Wars - 2867

Elder Scrolls - 2173

EVE - 1632

Warframe has gotten 214 votes in the last two days, and EVE has gotten 7. Pathetic (I think at least 4 of the last 7 have been mine.)

I guess the players of Warframe like their game more than the players of EVE like theirs.

-Kirst

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2016-12-17 16:07:44 UTC
Ion Kirst wrote:
EVE is fading fast in the voting!

Warframe - 7008

Guild Wars - 2867

Elder Scrolls - 2173

EVE - 1632

Warframe has gotten 214 votes in the last two days, and EVE has gotten 7. Pathetic (I think at least 4 of the last 7 have been mine.)

I guess the players of Warframe like their game more than the players of EVE like theirs.

-Kirst


The same could be said for McDonalds vs a quality 3-star restaurant though. The mainstream games will always attract a mainstream audience. EVE can't win these things because of that. But we can damn well give it a good showing nonetheless.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Expendable Unit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#50 - 2016-12-17 16:51:22 UTC
Putin now already has to make Russia as well as the US great again (since he will be ruling both), but now Eve as well ? Come on, give him a break.
Salvos Rhoska
#51 - 2016-12-17 19:32:28 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:

Oh really? So, responses to polls aren't considered voting?.


Correct.

Albeit ignoring the "considered" factor in your wording, which is subjective and irrelevant.

Yes, responses to polls are not voting. Period.


So, by your own definition, the race for best MMO is not a poll, since people are voting there. Awesome, glad we cleared that up. Now go vote for EVE.


Its not a vote. Its a poll.

None of these sites have a mandate to declare the best MMO by vote.
All they can do, is poll.
Kamala Sakar
Doomheim
#52 - 2016-12-17 21:16:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Kamala Sakar
Atleast the top contenders are pretty ok. The fact that ES:O have more then 2.000 votes is a travesty since it's easily the biggest letdown in MMO:s I have ever had. Bethesda really dropped the ball when they let a bunch of newbies take control of their franchise game.

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2016-12-18 00:56:08 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:

Oh really? So, responses to polls aren't considered voting?.


Correct.

Albeit ignoring the "considered" factor in your wording, which is subjective and irrelevant.

Yes, responses to polls are not voting. Period.


So, by your own definition, the race for best MMO is not a poll, since people are voting there. Awesome, glad we cleared that up. Now go vote for EVE.


Its not a vote. Its a poll.

None of these sites have a mandate to declare the best MMO by vote.
All they can do, is poll.


Stop trolling, Salvos. Sheesh mate, sometimes you're more autstic than I am on these forums, and I'm pretty autistic.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
#54 - 2016-12-18 15:30:18 UTC
Maybe this will help:

Hillary won the polls,

Trump won the vote.

-Kirst

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.

Kamala Sakar
Doomheim
#55 - 2016-12-18 15:52:26 UTC
To Warframes defence atleast it's a decent game. Guild Wars 2 feels rather meh and Elder Scrolls: Online is just an awful game.

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Salvos Rhoska
#56 - 2016-12-18 17:57:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Remiel Pollard wrote:


Stop trolling, Salvos. Sheesh mate, sometimes you're more autstic than I am on these forums, and I'm pretty autistic.


Trolling is making aggravating statements you dont believe in, for purposes of eliciting emotional reactions and conflict4.

The autistic cannot troll. They lack the capacity/impetus to do so, because they are impaired in empathetic faculty, lack theory of self to a degree, and thus cannot anticipate, understand or much less manipulate the reaction from others.

I hate the "autist" as "troll" meme. Autists cant troll even to save their life.They are categorically incapable of it.

Im just saying things as I see them, same as you. It doesnt require a mental disorder for us to do that.

Our opinions may not be popular, or articulated according to social niceties, but they stand on their own merit/weight same as everyone elses.
Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
#57 - 2016-12-18 19:20:53 UTC
http://www.mmogames.com/topmmos/best-mmo-of-2016/

Geez, if everyone who's online now in EVE voted, there would be over 46,000 votes!

I'm going to start mentioning the voting in game. I got people spread out over 3 different systems, and races.

Maybe it will help.

-Kirst

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.

Salvos Rhoska
#58 - 2016-12-18 19:39:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Pitiful insignificant poll on an irrelevant site Ive never even heard of.

I have an ESO account. Its a disaster compared to EVE.

This is self-serving marketing trash of no consequence.
Every pointless game review site is trying to push their own various "awards" as if they matter.
They pump site advertisement money into hack reviewers that write crap articles on the last night of the deadline with usually barely any time played in the game in question.

I despise these sites.

Maybe they hope they will get free stuff, exclusive interviews or paid passes to events.
In anycase, they are half a55ed producers of no relevant/valuable content.

These polls mean nothing. Its nonsense.
EVE players dont have to justify how great this game is by polling on each of 100 different irrelevant review sites, every year, for a meaningless accolade. Every year, they create more categories, and hence more awards. Cos.

Even on that site, EVE is wiping the table in the Sandbox category with over 100% more votes to competitors.

All that matters, is if people pay to play a game.
If people pay to do that, that is the highest accolade, and the most functional to a games future and development.

EVE is an unmitigated, long lasting success, because they have a good product, not cos some nonsense site polls them to be,

Yes, I am ranting. But I am so disappointed and jaded on how low the journalistic integrity of game review sites has gotten. Even in the 90s it was bad, when PCGAMER ruled supreme as a paper publication. Back then a single published reviewer could make or break a games future. For example they wrecked Privateer II: The Darkening, which imo was one of the best, functional, most progressive games in its genre, ever. Then they did the same to the Microsoft backed "Freelancer", again, cos they had idiots reviewing them.

But now, its even worse.
F**k em.

Instead of reading crap articles by overpaid hacks looking for a cheap easy buck on a games reputation, talk to the people that actually play the game.

5-10mins of looking at the games own forum will give you much more information.
/rant.
Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
#59 - 2016-12-18 22:41:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Ion Kirst
Salvos,

Well, after that rant, kiddo, it looks like from this point on you should have nothing more to say.

If you think no one cares about EVE in this voting, we even care less about what you say.

Did you say all that in one breath?

I think you're are so done with this.

Please keep your foul-mouthed opinions to yourself.

adios,

-Kirst

Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2016-12-19 01:11:36 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Cynical rubbish.



Then don't vote. No one is forcing you to vote, no one is forcing you to comment here, nobody but you made the decision to expatiate that absolute dribble you just did. Like, people call me and others here 'bittervets' for not liking their bad, un-eve-like ideas, but you're just damn bitter man.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104