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Looking For Marmite or other Good Escort High-Sec Rates for 1 Bowhead.

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Veine Miromme
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2016-12-15 15:34:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Veine Miromme
Tora Bushido wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Do Marmite offer escort service, personally I have no idea, but the first page of their Merc thread does not detail it
All we do is sell exotic dancers for 1B/dancer and war dec people. No escort services and structure jobs we forward to VMG.

Yes, thanks for confirming that Marmite does not offer escort services.
I was skimming through the first post of the Marmite thread and arrived to the conclusion that they didn't offer escort service even though I believed that they may have been offering escort services before reading it...

I'll also check out
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=443598
[MERC] Vendetta Mercenary Group (...googled EVE VMG...)

As for:
Dracvlad wrote:
...
Best way to deal with Mercs is be very specific in the terms of the contract and remember the only recourse you have for them not doing their job is to go after them yourself or pay someone else to do that. Remember however if you do muck up and get caught, you only have yourself to blame. Have fun...

For one thing , I could be a Merc myself and offer escort services.
I can fleet with escorts and figure out if webbing by other parties than a corp or alliance or fleet does agro and whatever else is required to know before hand.
I don't need to practice with a Bowhead to figure this out.

The contract offer and service delivery rely in the fact that if the escort service fails, it may be because of 2 reasons.
Either they didn't do their job right, or didn't want to do their job right, as if they are being bribed by another entity to deliberately fail the contract service, so as to lose my assets involved.
The other possible reason is that I did not take into account enough of the factors involved in the deal, and the risk taking associated with it.

In either case, I do not make a point to rely on blame and other alienation to resolve the matter.
If a Merc group is not willing to serve me after accepting my money, I don't have to deal with them in the future.
The same as yes, it may very well may be more cost efficient for me to move my Bowhead myself with 3 accounts.
I'm most certainly at war against those parties who associate with this and prefer to shelter myself and those I care for against this and the secondary effects of this, even under threats of imprisonment.

It's more fun, but also more profitable, secure, cost-efficient, positive, and so on.

As for Noragen,
I don't know about what you mean, as I cannot verify most of it.
I have never flown a capital yet, except for an Orca out of the station and right back in.
Which other capital ship I would have flown beside the Orca, I don't remember.
I have never used a webber yet, however, I do have my own covert fleet, and this, for years.
In fact, I used it to mine Ice in the Outer Ring [ORE] and harvest gas before the Prospect was introduced.

As for rules, being a systems analyst by profession, I am forced to make and deal with rules all the time, otherwise, all the work that I would try to do while it is attempted to be forfeited would not be secured enough.
Everything would be wasted in the vanity that it is attempted to be coerced into, as if some sort of wrongdoing, or irrelevant endeavour , with no means for me to protect it, while it is certainly not going to be protected by my enemies, who only try to destroy it for their own good, greedily only thinking about themselves.
Those rules, are what allowed me to be able to do what I need it , and otherwise, I'd probably be dead.

I have flown with a scout before, and I managed to do it with multi-client.
However, scouts will not protect me or my ship, or my fleet against bumping, unless the fleet or people associated with me, that is, not against me, have enough humph, or whatever it is, be it strength, accuracy, or other, that is required for the Bowhead to survive.
I am ok with some of the fleet ship to die, should there be suicide gankers, to protect the Bowhead, which may very well go to over 4b worth.
Also, at that rate of value, why not insure it?
Sure the insurance is worth around 600m in cost, but it covers for 1.2b or so if the ship is destroyed.

There are intel channels and/or systems to check for gankers, and/or for where they last hit (in the past).
There are ways to avoid those pitfalls with proper information beforehand alone.

As for the Bowhead, I was going to build it for speed, since it was going to be designed to be escorted.
That would also speed up it's delivery by the related percentage of gained time.


EDIT:
1.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6693434#post6693434
from
Young Merc corp LF small jobs
2016-10-30

2.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6678269#post6678269
Freighter Escort
#1 - 2016-09-30

3.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6661231#post6661231
[MERC] ARCHETYPE
#1283 - 2016-10-05
Page 65 of 67 (thread still opened)

+ more, that is only page 1 of the search result

Ship Type : Out of pod (for now)

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#22 - 2016-12-15 17:04:39 UTC
So you have a war dec then, and it is not against gankers as such, if that is the case then VMG could work for you, though you might want to see yourself as bait more than anything else Big smile.

Anyway good luck and I like the attitude Cool

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#23 - 2016-12-15 21:02:21 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Do Marmite offer escort service, personally I have no idea, but the first page of their Merc thread does not detail it
All we do is sell exotic dancers for 1B/dancer and war dec people. No escort services and structure jobs we forward to VMG.

Wait what?? Why were you always hiring me out as a High Class(Sec) Escourt then???

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#24 - 2016-12-15 21:19:40 UTC
I am not 100% sure what you just said OP but if you were using any of those threads as a 'people offer this service' I think you need to re read them. One was a request like yours only more vague, another was a joke of a group trying to be mercs and finally the last is disbanded. NEVER fit pure speed on a bowhead. If all else fails tank will be your only saviour. If you ignore that fit bulk warp speed as the 500mn trick needs no assistance and still fill out the spare rig and mids with shields. the Bowhead fit this way can move around kinda safely but a lucky experienced bumper can catch it still and than you could be in trouble.

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Veine Miromme
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2016-12-16 01:44:36 UTC
As for the last
EDIT: which I included in my last previous post,
it seems that I omitted to include this:
"EVE Online Search Forum : escort."

I will try to fix it tomorrow.

Ship Type : Out of pod (for now)

Leffy Skaramour
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
#26 - 2016-12-22 00:35:05 UTC
We can offer

Escort

&

Fiesta

Old School Pron best Pron
Darvo Thellere
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2016-12-25 20:23:36 UTC
usually we dont do stuff like this. but this job sounds very easy. get in touch with me if you are interested. maybe some easy contracts while the majority of our alliance is in holidays.
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