EVE General Discussion

Better get used to more stuff like this because this is where EVE is headed. And I'm not saying that as a bad thing. The subscription model is unsustainable and will have to be replaced by something else in the next few years if EVE is going to survive. It's really that simple.

Not sure if the locked box and key approach is the way to go or if that's even the plan, though. But as long as it's all for cosmetics I really couldn't give a rats ass.

Firstly, I'm guessing you failed to notice I'm an omega playing since 2003.
Secondly. F2P w restrictions isn't a perspective, it's a fact. You are "allowed" to play with restrictions on sp, ships and skills. Another fine example of poor reading comprehension.
Third and finally, the topic has absolutely nothing to do with the actual christmas gifts. Which btw are not even RNG and they come every year and have for many years so there's really not an expectation problem concerning "next year." Again, another fine example of reading poor reading comprehension.

Anyway, for those actually following the original point, I'm not so much worried that "EvE is dying" or that it will indeed end up looking like a cheap korean mmo. A little concerned that RNG boxes for sale on the EvE store would be a bit of a step on that slippery slope but mainly I just feel it cheapens the entire experience and is an immersion killer. It's one thing to get gifts every year (and even RNG gifts would be fine and perhaps even healthier for the market than mass gifts) but when you start selling gambling boxes it starts coming across as a desperate tactic to increase cash flow.

Obviously CCP have to have some income sources, playing an alpha might be free for the player but that doesn't pay the power bills nor the devs, however I think the skins, extractors and clothing items are in a pretty good place and I HOPE that they are enough to provide the income CCP needs to fill their coffers.

Introducing RNG boxes that give random items that are already available through direct selective purchase (because putting ships, injectors and other such items from the in-game market would be a MASSIVE no-no) is a blatant method of taking advantage of human susceptibility to gambling addiction and the "thrill" of surprise. While this type of mechanic might be fine for ppl with reasonable impulse control who would probably seldom if ever waste money on the things, for others with potentially real and serious gambling issues I find the tactic incredibly distasteful and beneath the kind of behaviour I would expect from CCP.

(Just to add, CCP have said nothing to indicate that they have any intent to do something like this whatsoever. It is purely speculation and opinion based on the availability of the strongbox mechanic and the real and apparent steps towards other standard f2p models)

Your fear mongering and stating an opinion that may or may never occur. If you are a 03er than you should know that CCP has given out gifts in various NEW ways for years. Stop being so niave that it means THISISTHEEND!!OMGOMG!!!RUNFORTHEHILLS!!!

Come with some hard evidence or just stop posting like chicken little. Youre an 03er arent you?!!? Sly isnt falling unless we make it fall on noobs heads!!

Your responses literally have no bearing what so ever on my actual comments. You seem to just be off on some angry rant about ppl wanting free stuff. Either you're not actually reading anything I said, have terrible reading comprehension or you are so blinded and seeing red by what you assumed a post about lockboxes would be about that you cant even think straight. Either way, I wont bother responding to your nerd rage again.

As far as I can tell, those boxes are fixed. First day everyone got the same four frigate skins that are depicted on the event page as well as far as I'm aware.

Second day now should give everyone two (IMO) horrible shirts. Am I right?

In Dust514 you had these "strongboxes" that came as random loot...
The "hacked decryptor keys" to open them were bought with Aurum,
later also obtainable by completing missions succesfully...
CCP has experience with this feature, so everything is possible.
As long as it doesn't become p2w...

Maybe that was intentional.

If it was, it's kind of self-defeating: without some way to make an educated guess at the state of the inside of the box, it's just a box with stuff in it.

Ding, we have a winner.

There's also benefits for when CCP do want to have boxes with some random, some fixed options, rather than messing with the loot tables for drops.

I dont see the problem.

1) If CCP wants to give back to supporters on Yule/Christmas, why not? This is normal. Many companies send gifts to clients at this time of year. I once worked as a receptionist for a bit at a specialised PC screen manufacturer. 99% of my time during that job in December was receiving and thanking clients/associated business for their expensive wine presents and arranging delivery of ours to them. Huge amounts of money are spent by companies in this period.

2) One of my favorite aspects of UO, was rare single issue items that you might be able to scavenge/loot off leaving players or clearing through their trash/neglected house. I created a dedicated character called Ivan Garbage that offered a garbage disposal service to this purpose. I made crazy bank.Many people didnt realize the value of their items to collectors, or no longer cared. The market for rare items is niche, but extremely interesting, especially as potential buyers are usually extremely rich and just want to complete their collections no matter the cost as money means nothing to them.

3) Its free stuff. Wtf are you complaining about?
Dont worry. The value of them all will be largely zero due to saturation, until years later.

Thread has nothing to do with gifts...