Intergalactic Summit

I think the Scope is covering this incident, because it is the first ? case of a Keepstar being engaged and destroyed while properly operational and armed.

Just as the first Outpost that was constructed by capsuleer efforts was notable, but the say... 87th outpost to be constructed, wouldn't even get mentioned except in the local constellation/region capsuleer intelligence news.

Or the first capsuleer owned Titan being engaged and put out of action. That made the Scope news. Why, didn't the SOCT or someone hand out sections of hull plating from it a couple of years ago, as souvenirs ? The last Titan to be put out of action, did that even appear in a Scope news ticker ?

So, I expect that say, the 39th Keepstar to be engaged and destroyed, won't be covered by the Scope at all.

Capsuleers have the habit of making the significant become the mundane in quite a short period of time.

Nobody's reducing the responsibility. You're responsible for what you do. You always are. That doesn't mean others aren't responsible for contributing to the system that enables you to do what you do. You don't act in a vacuum, and anyone who wants to pontificate like their hands are clean of the billions of lives we willfully and intentionally snuff out every week or so is just hypocritical. The buck stops with you for what you do. But the vast majority of the pilots who fired those missiles didn't sell them, they didn't produce them, and they didn't profit from that aspect of the economy of death.

There is a vast difference between absolving you of what you do, or diluting your culpability for your actions, and holding other people accountable for theirs, too.

It's not genocide when the winning side does it, you can also label them as enemy combatants.

Wait... Don't these things take days to go down, from investment to explosive finale?

How did none of the occupants evacuate in all that time? Or did it somehow go immediately down without the preliminary operations that are common to taking down large structures?

With large scale evacuation efforts, you can reasonably evac several million per day. Look at the Seyllin evacuation for numbers. 6 days is a long time, but 132 million is a lot of people.

We kill a particularly large structure and now everyone pretends to care about baseliners.

How long will this particular indignation last, a week?

They should've been evacuating this thing since late September.

Mid November at the latest, when the war started shifting against COT. It was clear to most involved parties that if PanFam dedicated, it would win. COT could not contest the super fleets, once the cyno jammer in a system went down, it was effectively impossible for COT to win the fight for the system if PanFam dropped supers.

Frankly, if the orbital was at serious risk then staff should have been looking to their own escape plans. This was not like taking a job at the foodcourt in Jita IV-4.

I know that sounds like victim blaming, but taking a job in nullsec is a bit similar to working in a Blooder orbital or a Serpentis drug lab. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Now ask yourselves how many people were in each of the keepstars that have died during their start-up shield initialization timer. They needed to be staffed for that cycle. They would have already had full hangar crews. They also would have needed to be ready to initialize the combat systems as soon as that cycle ended.

Nobody cried over those deaths. Nobody from Perkone made big dramatic pronouncements about how humanitarian efforts should have intervened.

I am partly to blame since I made no effort to save those people.

But the capsuleer mindset has been and always will be: What is in it for me?