EVE General Discussion

That was mostly from the tone you set in your OP. I took the time to check your EvE Gate profile, saw you're a month old, and realized you're at that point where this game is starting to frustrate you.

Next time, I'd suggest logging off for the night and making your post the next day. That way your post will end up less adversarial and more questioning. Getting angry at EvE is fine, we all do it, but coming to forums with that anger is not going to end well. Had you been a forum alt, I'd have ripped into you just like everyone else did.

Even if he keeps on following you, if you can manage to warp around for long time, there's always a chance you can shake him off (unless you are webbed/scrammed). There are already good advices here which are all valid options. Just to give you a few more tips, if you are warping off to a planet to make a run, don't warp to a lone planet that's away from all the other planet. He can easily identify where you are heading because there is only one celestial in the direction you warped. When there are multiple planets close to each other, and you are far away from them, they often appear in pretty much same direction/spot on the screen. If you warp to those, sometimes the chaser pick a wrong planet to warp to which is very close to the one you actually went. Also, play with warp to distances, like warp to 50, 70, 100. You keep bouncing and it could happen the chasing ship lands pretty far away from you. And although while warping to a moon in null is not advised in general, that's something you can try to throw them off, or warping to asteroid belt instead of planets directly. If you are bouncing around in a frig, and keep warping to confusing places it's much harder for the hunter to get you, especially if he's also solo.

Well there are many such options, but the priciple is basically that you want to force a lucky break or a mistake from he opponoent. Keep repeating many times (whatever it is) and if you do something enough times, there is a chance that either you get lucky or the opponent makes a mistake. This is not limited to just 'bouncing'. For example, if you are up against a kiter in 1v1 pvp scenario, don't give up just because he will always be faster than you. Mess about and try as many times as possible, and you could get your lucky break or the opponent makes a mistake. On paper there are fights you shouldn't win, but if you manage to survive long enough and drag out the fight for long time, there is always chance for a momentary lapse of concentration from the opponent leading to a silly mistake. Vet or not, we are all human and willl make mistake eventually.

I have won, and also lost fights this way. When a fight/chase/run away drags out for very long time, mistakes can happen, and you want to be ready and capitalise on that. So basically, never give up. You may be in a certain death situation, but silly things can happen that turns the tide in your favour.

Eve is already a frustrating game but it will always be worse as an alpha. The marketing lied to you. Eve is not free to play. Eve is free to try.

Kill the sabre. Pod him in his own bubble. Collect his corpse.

Also, for the record: The launcher holds 3 shots and takes a full minute to reload.

If you can bait him into aggressing while still giving yourself room to get back to the gate, you can get clear during his weapons timer, as well.

Also, you're not _usually_ going to find a sabre just sitting on any-old-gate. Have a gander at a map and pay attention to obvious choke points. That's where they're likely to be. Not a guarantee, of course, but you can certainly improve your odds of avoiding that.

The good news is, being an alpha, you probably didn't lose much of value. Don't sweat it. Always remember that the good thing about being a newbro is you basically have nothing to lose - no expensive implants, no expensive ships, etc. Go get into a free noob ship and go jump back.

I've lost to Sabres, to instalocking Lokis, to stupid Jackdaws, you name it. Pretty much every T2 and T3 you can imagine.

Let's say sabre will be fast enough. Then you both 12km off the gates, and sabre might be too far to even reach you with bubble.
Burn back to gates again and then you are free: sabre won't catch MWD frigate in any case.
In general: burn back to gates with MWD is like 99% of success for frigates.


5 seconds after sabre is like 20+km from you and you are free to go. (Again: sabre won't catch frigate with MWD)


Warp disruptor does not stop MWD. It can be done with scrambler and scrambler has very low range (<10km). You must be very unlucky to get caught by sabre with scrambler.

use the covert ops trip. if your going to null fit whatever cloak an alpha can fit (i think they can use a protype, i'm not home so idk.)

fit a mwd.

Jump through gate.

Bubble goes up

take a deep breath, and quickly pick a spot in space, double click, turn on mwd, turn on cloak.

if your fast enough that one cycle of the mwd will push you far enough away that when you slow down they might not find you. best to try and change directions after you slow, but as dory says 'just keep swiming' just keep moving away. Eventually he will give up or you will get way out of his range, you can then align, decloak and warp off.

other things.

1) shoot the ****** dead

2) make some friends, and then shoot the ****** dead

3) don;t go to null

4) run, and when that fails.. shoot the ****** dead.

Ah, the good old Rohrschach maneuver. I like that.

One further thing to consider for OP: those warp disrupt probes aren't exactly cheap, they cost around 200-300k isk each.
So if you were flying a cheap t1 frig, chances are you already won the isk war by the time he launched the third probe. Not very satisfying, I know, but if it makes you feel better, you could consider it a pvp victory for you.

Okay so here's the thing.

Interdictors have one job. That job is to bubble all the things ever.

They're generally weaker in combat than similarly sized ships because of this (thought not useless by any means)

Now, you're flying through gates in null. It is a very real possibility that there could be a sabre behind the next gate, or 20 dudes in smart bombing battleships and a deployable bubble. Bubbles are, for non-residents, the primary difference between losec and null.

You DO have the tools to avoid them though!

Firstly, your starmap. It has filters. One of which is "pilots in space in the last 30 minutes" Once you plot a course to wherever you want to be, turn that on and look LOOK at the systems it is directing you through. If somebody is gatecamping (like your sabre) thay're going to add +1 to that count. If someone is patrolling up and down a chain of systems, they're going to add a lot to a lot of systems.

Since you're invading null for whatever reason (I'm assuming exploration) you're looking for "dark" systems, or systems with no pilots in space in the last 30 minutes. If you can reroute your travel path through nothing but dark systems, great. if you can't, at least attempt to avoid the most obvious choke points. If there's only one way in to or out of an area of space, and it has anyone in it, assume it is camped at all times. It's probably not camped at all times, but in most cases it is at least gate bubbled at all times.

However, if you ARE exploring one wonders why you're taking gates in to null in the first place. You have a probe scanner. Scan down wormholes. You'll find more signatures and its easier to avoid hostiles.

Finally, if you're trying to run away from people and warp off you may want to consider an afterburner in stead of a MWD. You can use the AB even when scrambled to try and break range, and unlike the MWD it doesn't bloom your sig size. I'm not sure if anyone explained this to you, but microwarp drives increase your signature radius significantly when you use them. Bigger sig makes it easier to get a lock on you, and easier to hit you with weapons, meaning your MWD is generally only useful if you can use it to get out of targeting or effective weapons range of the other guy without getting melted by his guns in the process.

An Afterburner may be slower, but it also makes you actually harder to hit (assuming you don't pilot away in a straight line) by increasing your transversal velocity (or just your velocity in the case of missiles) and in many cases on a frig is quite fast, often fast enough to get you out of a bubble before the guy in it can shoot you up.

The bubble affects the sabre as well.