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I'm all for sleepers rampaging out of WHs and rocking people in high and low sec, but podding people is just a no-go. Seriously, wormhole logistics *already* suck.

I also point you to http://wp.me/p1WQ0O-3S (my blog) regarding destructible/vulnerable NPC station services. In short: screw off. The rules and mechanics for attacking entities living in NPC space (high, low, null, and even WH space) exist and have existed for a long time. Don't screw with it just because its different than sov 0.0.

Variety in space is a good thing.

As to your idea that you can't interact with NPC factions... have you ever tried to mission for pirate factions? Its actually really painful because ratting or plexing will *demolish* your *FACTION* standings (which can only be regained through *STORYLINE MISSIONS*).

If you want to do anything to make those factions actually able to be interacted with I sure hope you have plans to fix the current (and massive) problems around interacting with them in the first place.

-Liang

Agreed. No podding.



I don't want to "screw with it", m8, I want to see it improve. Stagnation is boring as hell. I dislike how completely DEVOID of actual game play the NPC elements of EVE are. I would like to see improved interaction not just with null-sec NPC entities, but all NPC entities. If such a feature can be pushed for as part of a null-sec or lo-sec overhaul, that's the angle we should be pushing for. Regardless, I don't like how things are now where you no options for real interaction at all. I haven't liked them since 2005 when, during a Mordu's Legion event, some dipshit Mordus Admiral smacktalked me in local. I still want to burn his station to the ground (or something).



Such changes would go hand in hand, obviously. When I say 'interaction', I'm not talking about Agent Missions; I'm talking about dealing with a representative of an NPC faction and actually negotiating with them terms of an agreement. Cripes, I was doing this sort of thing in Master of Orion almost 20 years ago, why can't I do it in the most advanced sci-fi game of all time??

The real problem is that everything I've seen so far has been moving towards trying to have one massive grind to deprive your enemy of use of the stations. However, I really like the way that NPC space works. If you want to deprive your enemy of their space... move in and take it.

A saying goes that possession is 9/10ths of the law... and that's true in NPC space. Its just not true in sov space - but the sov based CSM candidates are demanding "normalization" and ways of "striking back". No, **** them. If they want friendly people in NPC stations nearby then go wage war in the way that space was designed for.

We don't want your sov bullshit.

-Liang

I'm not quite sure why you're mad but you seem pretty mad. I'm not saying anything new, really. This stuff has been in the wind for years, m8. Lo-sec 'Viceroys' dealing with the major Empires, etc... Much of what you say doesn't make a lot of sense because you are talking about 'taking space" but you don't want people to actually TAKE any THING... just the space itself. As for the way that the space was 'designed for', I was one of the designers and I've got a pretty good idea that the reason things are the way they are currently have nothing to do with intent and everything to do with lack of resources. That is finally changing. It seems as if you just want the game to stay the same forever. I don't subscribe to that. Agree to disagree I guess. v0v

Two years ago, Greyscale wrote in a devblog, about the sov system you were working on:



NPC has the ultimate descriptive system. You own a system by keeping enough active people in it, that hostiles cannot use it for anything productive. If you fail at that, and the hostiles are the ones camping you in station, you have lost control over the system. That works.

If a sov alliance can control or negate an NPC station by doing a flyby with 30 supers every day or two, I'd say that's bad for the game. If they can do the same through some sort of "NPC negotiation" and then deny me access without any sort of PVP recourse, it's even worse.

So what exactly are you advocating?

Dear CCP Abathur / Seleene,

Please do not bullshit the audience about you being one of the designers behind NPC 0.0. I was shooting you and your brosefs - and even your own Nyx - long before you left Mercenary Coalition to work for CCP and there was already quite some amount of NPC 0.0 in game. Furthermore, please see the above post by Jack Dant for further explanation for what I am objecting to. He put my objections rather eloquently.

The core of my objection is that the reason the CSM even discussed the ability to incap/destroy NPC station services is because certain alliances were able to "raid" Sov 0.0 from NPC space. Thus, the Sov 0.0 members of the CSM demanded a way to "protect their space" in a way that is familiar and comfortable to them - by throwing 200 supercaps for 5 minutes every few days at the problem.

The entire approach demanded by the Sov 0.0 alliances flies directly in the face of the already existing game dynamic that exists in NPC space. NPC space is different than sov space and these differences encourage different kinds of residents and different forms of combat. "Ownership" of the system is much more about full time occupation of that system - and frankly if the sov 0.0 alliances want to fight NPC space alliances in their "home space" then they should have to adjust to the different rules of engagement - just as they would if they were trying to take Wormholes. (Oh wait, they demanded changes to make that easier for them too....)

Additionally, the ability for either party to raid along the border of Sov 0.0 / NPC 0.0 is a good thing for the game and provides unique attributes to the space on both sides - unique attributes that the current CSM is diligently working to remove and destroy.

And then your response to the issue makes literally no sense. You want to somehow make it so that if you plex against Sanshas in Sansha space you won't be able to dock in Sansha stations - and then you don't even address the idea of the sov 0.0 holders attempting to negatively affect the rules of NPC space.

Basically - NPC space is different than Sov space - and that's good for the game. All this talk about giving sov 0.0 alliances "remedies" with which they can attack the station services for NPC stations? Total bullshit.

-Liang

when clones are costing 65mil isk or more then a tier 1 bs i could ue that isk for the hip to keep pvping. it feels like the longer you play the more you are penalized yes you can do more but at the same time you die 2-3 times in a day/fleet thats 130-195m

i'm starting to feel it is better to give up on a toon at x skill point call it done and start a new one

Seleene, i hope you will push for the micro plex system i already see a few advantages to it if put in as stated in the minutes

if done by 30 small plexes 1 day each if you have an unexpected bill you can add a few days to your account if before pay day or use some for nex store items (not sure why anyone would want them) and sell the rest

Why was none of this in the minutes? This matches that document CCP put out a while ago on how they wanted to improve NPC Null for those that choose to live there. It would have been something for me to cheer about other than AF and potential NOS boosts.

Oh and while you're being open about your positions, what's your position on Local Chat Intel? CCP brought up changing it again, but from the minutes it looks like the CSM spoke out against any changes.




Actually it makes lots of sense. Since it means most of the holders of sov space in that region will have bad standing to the Pirates and not be able to utilize those stations and services, likewise any large player entity that hasn't uniformally set out to ally with those NPC pirates will have a good percentage of players that can't use the stations and services. This means that the NPC stations are less likely to be used by large player entities fighting wars for control of sovereignty, which is a good thing. On the other hand it will become a good home for those that act like pirates and attack players farming their NPC allies, and for those that run missions for the Pirates. The cost of which is having to leave the local RATS alone, although it might not be a bad idea to add new Concord DED and exploration sites to NPC Nullsec to give a little more PVE opportunities for those that don't want to ruin their standings with the Local Pirates.

...and yeah it makes absolutely no sense that you kill thousands of a Faction's ships/crew and then be merrily welcomed into the same factions stations to use every service but jump clone creation... yeah it's RP, but EVE last time I checked is an RPG.