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Planetary interaction - what does white bars means exactly
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Pupok Pupok
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-12-09 07:49:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Pupok Pupok
Please What exactly means that white bars near 5 resources harvestable on planet in upper left corner in planetary mode.

https://s30.postimg.org/ixo5nihr5/Screenshot_2016_11_14_14_51_19.png

- is it amount of recources refreshing every couple of time ? / day / hour,...
so more harvest heads near each one on best local spot dont or hard harvest them?

- or it is amount of resources accumulutated over time ( and that refresh rate of spawning resources are same for all planets in eve ) and every planet have cap limit for every one of total five resources on planet? So if 20 players harves same resource ( Microorganism ) on the same planet ....over time that white bar move to the left? or that white bar dont move/change even 1000 players harvest the same resource ( Microorganism ) on the same planet.

-Is refresh rate of spawning resources over time exact the same for all planets in eve ?

thx a lot for answer, i found many threads on forums, but players have many explainings about that and noone knows exact what that means.


after 7 days response from CCP:

Greetings,

Thank you for contacting Customer Support. I apologize for the delay in this response, but we are currently seeing a heavy load of incoming support tickets which has resulted in a slower response time than normal. Your patience is appreciated.

I am afraid that we have not published any information regarding the bars in question and as such will not be able to comment on this. If you have any questions or concerns regarding this, please let me know.

Best Regards,
Senior GM Cid
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | EVE Valkyrie



soooo


any relevant answer ? from players or another DEV member?

thx
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#2 - 2016-12-09 08:39:46 UTC
AFAIK, it's just a very general indicator of how prevalent a resource is on the planet.

It absolutely will move. If you're patient, you can force this easily enough by rapidly starting and stopping extraction cycles. Might take some time to refresh, but the bar will go down.

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Kalido Raddi
Crown Mineworks
#3 - 2016-12-09 12:26:54 UTC
So far as I've been able to tell, the white bars represent the total amount of resources available on that planet.

What it doesn't tell you is how concentrated those resources are. It's frequently the case that a much smaller bar can have far more intense hotspots.
Kosomot
Player Vs Ore
Miners Of Independence
#4 - 2016-12-10 02:39:34 UTC
As others have said it is an indication of resource density on the planet.

Most PI people will tell you that smaller planets are better because basically, if i'm looking at an area of higher density using the slider bar, on a smaller planet it is likely i'm going to access more that resource per pocket on that planet.

however it's not all candy on smaller planets, if the planet is busy with other capsuleers running PI farms smaller planets become crowded and yields can suffer (this is more true in high sec and less of a concern in Null Sec // Wormhole).


Your skills in Planetary Interactions, specifically Planetology, and Advanced Planetology will show you where the hotspots are.


Plantary Interaction is one of those things that alot of people hate, however CCP has done an excellent job of make it a required part of the supply chain so it can be a pretty solid source of income.

POS/Cit/EC fuel all needs PI.

The entire Citadel and EC building chain needs PI materials, find out what people need an give it to them, because unless they are in Null or a WH they are most likely not making enough.

I am a miner, mission runner, and explorer...

or as EVE Online would have it...

A Carebear!!
Pupok Pupok
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2016-12-11 07:12:33 UTC
thx a lot for explaining....

how often planet refresh raw material on surface.... continuos every minute/hour or once a day ( at downtime maybe )
Matthias Ancaladron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2016-12-13 14:47:46 UTC
Kosomot wrote:
As others have said it is an indication of resource density on the planet.

Most PI people will tell you that smaller planets are better because basically, if i'm looking at an area of higher density using the slider bar, on a smaller planet it is likely i'm going to access more that resource per pocket on that planet.

however it's not all candy on smaller planets, if the planet is busy with other capsuleers running PI farms smaller planets become crowded and yields can suffer (this is more true in high sec and less of a concern in Null Sec // Wormhole).


Your skills in Planetary Interactions, specifically Planetology, and Advanced Planetology will show you where the hotspots are.


Plantary Interaction is one of those things that alot of people hate, however CCP has done an excellent job of make it a required part of the supply chain so it can be a pretty solid source of income.

POS/Cit/EC fuel all needs PI.

The entire Citadel and EC building chain needs PI materials, find out what people need an give it to them, because unless they are in Null or a WH they are most likely not making enough.


Is there a way of finding good planets with reasonable taxes from customs in high sec or do i just have to fly around and hope i find one that isnt set to 20% +
Kalido Raddi
Crown Mineworks
#7 - 2016-12-13 14:56:17 UTC
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:

Is there a way of finding good planets with reasonable taxes from customs in high sec or do i just have to fly around and hope i find one that isnt set to 20% +

There aren't any good planets in HighSec, and even the mediocre ones will have high tax rates.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#8 - 2016-12-13 21:37:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Re: white bars

Overall relative amounts of resources.

IMPORTANT: the white bars do not tell you how the resource is distributed. It could be all in one high-density spot or it could be an extremely low-density ocean covering the entire planet.

For hisec extraction I always recommend sticking with P1 manufacturing of Water and Oxygen. They can be extracted in decent quantity, and in hisec quantity rather than quality matters most.

Worst in hisec is easily Electrolytes (Ionic Solutions).
Kosomot
Player Vs Ore
Miners Of Independence
#9 - 2016-12-14 18:34:14 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Re: white bars

Overall relative amounts of resources.

IMPORTANT: the white bars do not tell you how the resource is distributed. It could be all in one high-density spot or it could be an extremely low-density ocean covering the entire planet.

For hisec extraction I always recommend sticking with P1 manufacturing of Water and Oxygen. They can be extracted in decent quantity, and in hisec quantity rather than quality matters most.

Worst in hisec is easily Electrolytes (Ionic Solutions).



I do agree that O2 is a great HighSec item to make, it's uses require lots of it across the empire, I just sold 300,000 M3 of O2 out of low sec, which i thought I would never sell, because it's buried deep in Caldari // Gallante FW space.

I will say thou, PI'ing in FW zone isn't too bad, I had my PI alts join FW Faction so it makes traveling mucho easier since most of the people around are my faction friends

So ya.

I am a miner, mission runner, and explorer...

or as EVE Online would have it...

A Carebear!!
Taz Carnarth
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2016-12-15 19:19:07 UTC
I am new to the game but I would have never thought customer support would answer questions on game play. I would prefer they spend their time on helping people with technical and account issues. I would expect you to get your answers from the forums, YouTube, reddit, that eve university site. I am pleased customer support did not respond to your question.