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118.10 - General discussion (PC)

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Lion Drome
Der Wehrmacht
#21 - 2016-12-13 14:15:37 UTC
Patch seems mostly good but the new UI noise that is caused whenever the cursor moves over something to click on doesn't seem like a change in the right direction. Old one felt much better and fitted the overall theme of EVE much more smoothly. Better immersion, feedback on reddit also seems to agree with this.

Also bit offtopic but if one of the devs can poke one of the bug report guys then Garmur Skin names have few bugs. http://i.imgur.com/xgkMTVP.png
Breaking Fast
Antiquity Research Division
#22 - 2016-12-13 14:16:42 UTC
The whole "You need to be in range to execute this function" voice is annoying as F$%^. I normally multi click on wrecks/cans/gates to approach them, having Aura tell me 4 or 5 times (depending how excited i get on clicking) is kind of not needed, its almost becoming EvE for dummies
CCP Turtlepower
C C P
C C P Alliance
#23 - 2016-12-13 14:23:41 UTC
Winter Archipelago wrote:
"Aura" wrote:
You need to be in range to execute this function.

So far, I've been fine with the changes to Aura. I miss the degree of contempt she would occasionally put out, sure, but I can understand the need to redo the voices for the new tutorial.

This "need to be in range," however, has already become annoying and I've been dealing with it for all of 15 minutes.

"Aura" wrote:
You you you you need you need you you you need to you nee you you need to be you you need you you you you need to be in range to execute this function.

CCP, please, give us a way to turn off this particular voice sample. This is seriously annoying already.


Breaking Fast wrote:
The whole "You need to be in range to execute this function" voice is annoying as F$%^. I normally multi click on wrecks/cans/gates to approach them, having Aura tell me 4 or 5 times (depending how excited i get on clicking) is kind of not needed, its almost becoming EvE for dummies


Thanks for the feedback, we will take this into consideration and discuss the matter. For now, please be aware that you can turn off aura voice in the ESC menu, Audio Tab, Advanced Audio Settings.

o7
CCP Turtlepower // Team Genesis
Sluht Hunter
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2016-12-13 14:36:21 UTC
Wow a 32% nerf to Rorq mining amount in the very next update.. That has to be one of the fastest nerfs in ccp history.

A well fit Rorq with excavator drones and the ore mining foreman implant is about 11 billion isk sitting out there as a huge come gank me target that is stuck in position for 5 min with the core on. Eve used to be a risk vs. reward game. But I guess CCP only wants to reward the QQ babies that cry because they have not put the skill time and isk into training for that ship, and cant mine as much.

I am seriously starting to remember why I unsubbed from this game last spring.
Kronovestan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#25 - 2016-12-13 14:38:06 UTC
CCP Turtlepower wrote:
For now, please be aware that you can turn off aura voice in the ESC menu, Audio Tab, Advanced Audio Settings.



Please don't forget the UI click changes you guys added if you're going to put anything back to what it was.

Thanks!
Andy Baer
Another Co.
#26 - 2016-12-13 14:56:00 UTC
Hello,

Before anything else please fix the crashing issues I have reported even before ascension. My client crashes up to 5 times a day. And do something about the voice.
Marlene Dakenek
Devid Ventures
#27 - 2016-12-13 15:45:48 UTC
For the love of god please roll back these new sound effects under "UI click". What was wrong with the old ones? I know I can disable "UI click" but that also disables sounds that I actually like to hear.
Dominous Nolen
Anomalous Existence
The Initiative.
#28 - 2016-12-13 16:12:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Dominous Nolen
CCP Turtlepower wrote:


Thanks for the feedback, we will take this into consideration and discuss the matter. For now, please be aware that you can turn off aura voice in the ESC menu, Audio Tab, Advanced Audio Settings.

o7
CCP Turtlepower // Team Genesis



Maybe we can have something like an interaction level set for aura such as basic functions like warping, docking etc for those who was a minimized aura experience and for newer players have a more interactive aura experience that they can scale down as they learn the basics.

Interacting with cans is something paid subs have been doing for a long time and just having the ship navigate to the can should be good enough.

@dominousnolen

"Fly dangerously, Fly safe, Fly whatever, just keep Flying." - Lee Blackwood

Dominous Nolen
Anomalous Existence
The Initiative.
#29 - 2016-12-13 16:14:00 UTC
Andy Baer wrote:
Hello,

Before anything else please fix the crashing issues I have reported even before ascension. My client crashes up to 5 times a day. And do something about the voice.


We've already asked in ascension to roll it back, its part of the new NPE that it had to change, sorry bud. old Aura is gone but not forgotten.

@dominousnolen

"Fly dangerously, Fly safe, Fly whatever, just keep Flying." - Lee Blackwood

Annexe
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#30 - 2016-12-13 16:38:22 UTC
did the sounds for wallet isk increase/decrease just get ripped from the sony playstation menu??

Annexe

ITAI - VIP

"i will pop your wreck with faction loot"

Adolf Mekansm
Tardigrade
#31 - 2016-12-13 16:52:45 UTC
Hello,


After deleting our lovely Aura voice, without any option to keep the old one, you keep going on with sound changes...




=> What is the point of making a small annoying noise each time you mouse pass on a cliquable UI element ? And no way to disable it without also disabling the life/capa alarms


also => The voice telling you you're "not in range" to open a cargo is also annoying because it's a function you use instead of "approach" when you wanna your ship go in range an loot. And it makes spawn the voice twice.



Quote:

Please CCP, i think the community would love more UI personification about icone, voices, messages. It's really easy to make, and will warm a little hearts like mine around chrismas.
Adolf Mekansm
Tardigrade
#32 - 2016-12-13 16:55:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Adolf Mekansm
Adolf Mekansm wrote:
Hello,


After deleting our lovely Aura voice, without any option to keep the old one, you keep going on with sound changes...




=> What is the point of making a small annoying noise each time you mouse pass on a cliquable UI element ? And no way to disable it without also disabling the life/capa alarms


also => The voice telling you you're "not in range" to open a cargo is also annoying because it's a function you use instead of "approach" when you wanna your ship go in range an loot. And it makes spawn the voice twice.



Quote:

Please CCP, i think the community would love more UI personification about icone, voices, messages. It's really easy to make, and will warm a little hearts like mine around chrismas.


=> New VS old aura soundset
=> What sound we wanna hear or not
=> why not old vs new overview icone set
SportBilly
GHOSTS OF THE FIRST AND ONLY
#33 - 2016-12-13 17:13:39 UTC
Malachir wrote:
Ok, what did you do?

Now Aura chides me because I have the temerity to try and open a cargo from a wreck that is out of range. I already know this...it allows me to home in on it and open it when in range.

Also, I can't target anything out of range without Aura chipping in. I know it's out of range...I'm trying to target it quickly for when it is..

Is this now EVE for Dummies? I will have to turn Aura off now because that is properly annoying.

Is there anything else you have broken?


I couldn't agree more, senseless bells whistles and flutes!

Why, we now have a sound bite selecting a character , another sound bite when the char appears in station, along with awful aura voice at different pitches at the same time. before we even do anything...why?

Please add useful additions to the game, like drone buttons etc, not ruin the great game this is by adding sub standard changes. including pop ups that appear as you scroll, covering the things we are scrolling through...add a delay to these pop ups please, or an option to remove them.

And by far still the biggest annoyance, resulting in another update turned off...wup drive acktiv.

Juno Hataro
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2016-12-13 18:13:59 UTC
OMG im new player but no so stupid after i hear one more time You need to be in range to execute this function i will kill myself
Can you set this func but need to have some control maybe right click on buton and disable sound for this for trageting too please fix it i dont want to desable all sound for this
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#35 - 2016-12-13 18:21:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Altrue
Hey CCP,

First, the new mouse sounds are horrible, and it's infuriating that the only way to turn them off is to disable ALL mouse sounds. Also, the sound setting is called "UI Click" but it should really be "Mouse Move", because last time I checked, the annoying sound for 99% of people is this aggressive and completely redundant noise when the mouse just... moves around.

It's not because it's mouse related that every response from the UI is equal. There is a world of difference between a click and a mouseover. Both in frequence, in utility, and in how it is uncomfortable to hear.

Please remember, when people are complaining about the mouse sounds, they aren't complaining about the entire mouse-related noises. That's why just turning off every mouse sound isn't an ideal solution for most people.

Second, the new aura notification is horrible too. Aside from the fact this voice line can stack and play in multiple instances simultaneously (I thought we were done with this kind of annoying behaviour), it is encountered way too frequently and this fact is actively contributing to how much it annoys people.

I personally think that this sound shouldn't be used in 99% of the cases it is used currently. So, for instance, for accessing containers and targeting stuff, we shouldn't have to hear this. I could see it being useful for things only accessible through a right click menu : Anchor, Unanchor, that kind of stuff. That kind of action is naturally more inclined to be exceptional in itself, which makes informing the player of a range constraint all the more useful, and the fact that it uses a right click option means it will never be spammed like it could with a button option.

Third, using the notification system for advertising Cash Shop related informations is highly annoying and a very bad signal to send to the community. Not only does it represent pure and simple advertisement -which nobody wants-, but it will diminish the impact and usefulness of the notification system as a whole, as more and more people will simply turn it off.

I would also like to add that, since opening the fitting window for the ship you are flying, gives you a very easy access to the list of SKINs available for this ship, advertising it separately is pointless, since people who DO fly this ship will know anyway, and since people who DO NOT fly the ship, will not want to buy the skin anyway.

As a last point, still about the SKINs, I would like to point out that a reuse of the old SKIN technology is a move in the wrong direction, as people want more SKINs like the Star Captain, and less SKINs like the Fire Cell. To add insult to injury, this color scheme has already been seen before for the gallente ships.

It would also be appreciated if you would release more bundles, and more SKINs of the same type. I'd totally love to buy a race-wide SKIN that covers the entire race, rather than buying some SKIN separately. Even with a big discount (like 75 to 50%), I'd still end up spending more money if I bought this racial bundle, rather than with the current situation. That'd be a win-win.

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Zoey Lawson
ZERO T0LERANCE
RAZOR Alliance
#36 - 2016-12-13 18:23:02 UTC
"Increased the drop rates of the Elite Drone AI and Drone Coronary Unit rogue drone components."

I would love to know, what exactly CCP changed.
I´ve looted several Sentient as well as Elite Drones. Still quiet the same amount of drone parts and, most importantly, just one single Elite Drone AI.

How are the odds off getting more than one Elite Drone AI? How excactly where the drop rates changed?

William Hazard
Literally The Worst Community
#37 - 2016-12-13 18:43:57 UTC
Bring the old aura voice, or at least let us chose which one we want !

these new mouse sound and new notification are horrible.


Make Eve sound great again !
Set Master
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2016-12-13 18:51:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Set Master
I liked the old UI sounds, I can't disable the new one without disabling the old one, separate them please, the new click sound is terrible. Also the "need to be within range" sound needs to have a disable option like so many others have said.
Soltys
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2016-12-13 19:18:38 UTC
Can we get an option to disable mouseover clickety click click without disabling the ui sounds altogether ?

"UI interaction" doesn't seem to be doing much

"UI click" seems to apply to everything ui related

Jita Flipping Inc.: Kovl & Kuvl

Miss Cata
Sisters in Solitude
#40 - 2016-12-13 19:47:27 UTC
Dear CCP,

Please make the "You need to be in range - text" an optional thingy in the sound settings. It is driving me mentally insane hearing it with every wreck I approach. Ugh

It also overlaps itself when you press the button a couple of times, which is even more annoying. Blink

Still love you tho! Big smile

Cata