EVE General Discussion

The devs at CCP might not even know. We're talking about a group of investment firms that own CCP transferring ownership to possibly another investment firm or developer. That could mean it will have no effect on EvE at all, or it could mean new development $$ for EvE, or it could mean development money for VR or something... nobody has any idea and it could be (may very well be) years before anything is revealed, even to CCP employees. Reading through this thread, my impression is that there are two rational groups of posters: those who are pointing out over-reactions and fuzzy thinking, and those who are trying to drive down PLEX prices or something. The rest are trolls.

tl;dr; don't worry about this. You don't spend a billion RL dollars on a company and than crush the IP you just spent all that money on. You turn that IP around and make it even more valuable. I would have thought EvE players knew more about capitalism...

Edit: I would be more worried if no one wanted to buy CCP. If their company value went from 300 to 900+ million over just 2 years, it says good things about the company and imho, the future of our game.

Some do, others do not. Some discussions regarding the market have been quite illuminating, not to mention baffling.

Nah it`s not that. The paying model is old school. The had to change it. All hardcore players got a life now. You know kids woman. Perhaps other things to do than 8 hours playing. New players or young players do not have the patience to play this in dept. And there is the problem.

The game is not broken son. It`s needs to change. And that change cost something. A rework of all things we do not use or just is not what it suppose to do.

Sounds more to me your full off s.. and confuse than it needs to be.

I found the cultural cycle concept interesting. But I have not seen other grounds for it. There is a work floating about called "The 4th Turning" that describes an 80 year cycle, but that would not have much to do with an MMO. Perhaps there's a cycle in the MMO world that runs on a decade's time? Who knows.

One thing about WoW, as that game everybody (loves and loves to) hate, was that it was a genre before that. I recall seeing Warcraft 3 being played once, and asked the kid who was playing it what that was (my answer came with a "lol noob" but I got an answer). Could this happen to Eve?

Would we see a day where spaceships is no longer the central point of the game but a facet of it, such that players can FPS, fighter pilot, or fly a ship? CCP appeared to be headed in that direction once with Dust, now dead. We got as far as being able to bomb targets on the planet with tactical ammo. There was even chronicle that alluded to capsuleers walking around using the same technology as clone soldiers, the one about the Battle of Caldari Prime.

So would internet spaceships get pushed aside so that one day, you are just you, where you can FPS like in Dust, or fly a fighter/bomber? Or maybe you might have to get in a pod and throw some serious tonnage around from time to time?

A "world of" approach as we have seen before?

Would they call is World of Eve? Or maybe they will call it New Eden Online "NEO" for more coolness?

These are just thoughts getting pulled out of my ass. But knowing how marketers are drawn to previously used (and profitable) ideas like flies to crap, I would not be surprised to see that day come.

(Whether or not it's possible is another matter. Star Citizen failing for example).

Well, 'cultural cycles', is an interesting concept, and I know some do like entertaining such ideas. But I just don't see it as that valid concept to be widely applicable, beyond very narrow application on generational trends and counter trends.

More general social theories consider much bigger picture, with more variables, and better focus on power relationships and transformation/transfferance of power in a society, within changing economical framework and also taking into consideration changes in modes of communication and social interaction.

We could apply cultural cycles and use that to see what stage we are in now and where we will be in future, but it does not fully take into account the accumulated history of power changes and economic metamorphosis that society has gone through over the past decades.

Well, that got a bit wordy, but tl;dr - yes we may get a bit of 'trends' from the old back, but by the time the cycle ends and a new cycle begins, the world has already transformed in so many ways that's way too different from what it was in the start of the previous cycle. A new cycle to repeat? maybe. But we're in a different world now, and there's absolutely no denying that.

Having said that, yeah Blizz made WOW (MMORPG) out of (War Craft). And CCP tried/still tries to do something like this too - Dust (FPS based on EVE world) being one of the examples that we all know.

I think it is entirely possible that EVE could evolve into a different genre more appropriate (commercially) for the new generation. I mean CCP even released board games & they had a mini 'magement game' going on with PI stuff as well, so they have certainly shown that while they keep EVE as what it is for now, they are happy to try out 'spin offs', and if one of those spin offs become a big comercial success, than why not?

Perosnally I have absolutely no problem with space ships becoming 'optional' part of EVE game play. I'm not sure how far they can 'integrate' everything under one roof of 'EVE', or even if that's necessary to do so. They can keep EVE as it is, and devleop other things (such as they've done with Valkyrie) that has EVE theme but is a stand alone game.

I personally wouldn't mind more avatar game play focused stand alone game of EVE, even if it was not integrated with the space ship focused EVE we play today. :p

Just to add: what I said above ie pretty interesting case though. Many other games' forums are obviously filled with endless feature suggestions and complaints and whines , etc - this is definitely not unique to EVE. But 'CCP is business' card is played a lot by people on the forum here, and it is not an argument I often see in other games forums. I find that interesting

If its business, Its a deal for a customer: they pay money, they get updates and fun. Else, why even care?

I'm not sure the world is ready for that information.

--Gadget shuddrers

I'm accepting 100 Billion ISK in Donations from people who wanna quit after knowing doom is near!

Instead of reading this thread I played Farmville in one window and Eve in the other, and pretended it was a new PI system!