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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#21 - 2016-11-03 16:56:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
Just like the "Depot Art" that you can find in hubs (Amarr right now, please tell me where I can look away from this spam), these ad billboards will hit you in the face soon. There's already a pretaste of what's to come on Sisi. And the good thing in EVE is that we have the technology to achieve exactly that choice that you lack in RL.

UI Improvement Collective

My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.

Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#22 - 2016-11-03 17:03:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Gadget Helmsdottir
Meh.

I don't really care about the station ads, in or outside. If the ads are interesting, I have no problem with them.

On the other hand, notification ads masquerading as CCP 'Important News' isn't gonna fly by me.

First, enough of these adds, and I might disable that notification screen, and the crying wolf will make me miss actual important news.
Second... it's EvE. SUPER IMPORTANT NEWS ads are scams... A trip through a market hub proves that. Blink

As a compromise, put the ads on a separate "CCP Value" channel that cannot be unclicked if the account is in an Alpha state**. This way, the actual important official news is separate from the ads. Yes, some may disable the ad channel, but this would only be available for those accounts already paid for.

Leave the other ads though. Player ads are cool, and launcher ads are fine.

--Gadget

**Edit: OR just make the separate channel and make it unclickable, period. This way, the ad is still there, but when we open the ad, we aren't tricked into doing so.

Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist

Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."

Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2016-11-03 17:21:28 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Just like the "Depot Art" that you can find in hubs (Amarr right now, please tell me where I can look away from this spam), these ad billboards will hit you in the face soon. There's already a pretaste of what's to come on Sisi. And the good thing in EVE is that we have the technology to achieve exactly that choice that you lack in RL.


Before depots it was anchorable cans. This sort of thing has been going on in Eve since as long as I've been playing, and that's nearly 8 years. If you want to stop that, don't make small items anchorable on grid with an NPC structure. Job's done.

As for the other, you're still really not giving us any reason why. At least not a compelling reason CCP would care about.

I'm not saying I agree with you, I'm not saying I disagree. Frankly, I don't care one way or the other. But unless you can get a couple thousand people together to shoot a statue over this, CCP doesn't really pay attention to "Grr Players Annoyed by Change" threads.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno

Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2016-11-03 17:32:13 UTC
So I just logged into Sisi - the billboards on the stations don't really bug me. Honestly, I didn't even notice them at first, I had to zoom around the station with my camera to even locate them.

But they added docking range lights like the Citadels have so you know when you're within docking range. That's super awesome.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno

Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#25 - 2016-11-03 17:36:57 UTC
My intention is not to stop that spam, my intention is to make the spam worth looking at and not worth "looking away" or "ignore it", like you or others have suggested. It's not a typical "Grr change" thread; in my perception and the hostile tone aside it's a thing that CCP should improve upon for their own good because a feature that only makes you look away or that you should ignore is not something I as a dev would be proud off.

Compelling reason? I have given several, among others the abuse of system notifications for adverts by CCP. This runs the danger of drowning out important notifications in the ad noise. Another reason is that I do not want to look away from the screens. Instead I want to look at them and see something that makes me smile. Neither the Mirelle glasses nor CFC ads on that screen make me smile; the mirelle glasses ad in particular makes people feel inferior.

UI Improvement Collective

My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.

Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#26 - 2016-11-20 14:51:34 UTC
Quote:
[14:46:47] Kenji Shardani > I'm getting bombarded with adverts in space stations , is there a microtransaction I can pay to turn them off?

This is a quote from the Rookie Help chat, sent just moments ago. I obviously do not agree with the microtransaction part; however, even new players seem to dislike the ad bombardment. Go figure what they want. Roll

UI Improvement Collective

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Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#27 - 2016-11-20 18:37:01 UTC
CCP is making it progressively harder to justify not quitting this game for good.
This trend has been going on for far too long.

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.

Violet Hurst
Fedaya Recon
#28 - 2016-11-20 19:35:52 UTC
No opinion on the topic in this post.
Just as a workaround for those negatively affected by the in-station screens: I'm currently using the "optimized for ememory" preset for my graphic settings. A side effect of that seems to be that the in-station screens only display a still frame of the scope logo, so one of the settings affected by the preset might be responsible for that.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#29 - 2016-11-20 21:30:54 UTC
The problem with that is that you need to turn Shaders to low, which turns off all the other eye candy that you actually want to see.

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Galactic Rangers
#30 - 2016-12-12 09:04:18 UTC
absolute rubbish, are you all that weak minded that you can't ignore a bill board? i see hundreds of them a day while doing my job and i couldn't tell you what one of them says.

give it over lads, ad blockers in a game Roll if it was outside products with nothing to do with EVE i'd probebly agree a little.

but even then if i decide not to notice them they won't be noticed.

Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#31 - 2016-12-12 09:08:17 UTC
I will not give up to coerce CCP into doing things that are good for the game, but thanks for your input. Not everyone is oblivious and ignorant to harmful mechanics and features of the game.

UI Improvement Collective

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Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2016-12-12 09:26:35 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Ok, now this is really pissing me off right now. Evil Not only do you flood my hangar screens with ads, flood my launcher with huge ads, clutter the news stream with ads ... now you also show ingame CCP notifications containing ads. This is getting out of hand!

I do not care about your petty developer feelings, but you better add an ad blocker right away so that I can block videos, notifications and all the things related to advertisement that I do not want to see. Alternatively, use your dumb notification widget system and introduce another CCP Notification option concisely called "CCP advertisement" or "New Eden Store Advertisment" that I can untoggle so that I do not see these notifications. It is unbelievable that you use your system notifications that ought to be reserved for important things like downtimes, emergencies, patch announcements for advertisement of your NES garbage.



Agreed
Memphis Baas
#33 - 2016-12-12 13:16:14 UTC
I've disabled all notifications. The blinking of the various buttons in the toolbar is sufficient notification for me.

I've checked "minimize to system tray" on the launcher, and I X it. It doesn't load ads while in the system tray, or if it does I can't see them so I don't care. I do agree it's ridiculous, on the launcher, if you compare how much surface area is allocated to the actual purpose of the launcher (to let you log in) and how much is allocated to "news" and ads.

And I always rotate the camera in-station to not see the billboards. My graphics temperatures are 40 flying around even in the densest asteroid field with godrays and everything turned on, and 55 degrees in station. But it's ok, whatever, at some point it'll be too much and they'll lose subscriptions because they really **** of their customers with these ads. Nobody likes ads.

Anyway, my suggestion for in-station, since the ads are RECRUITMENT ads, there's no reason for anyone who's already in a player corp to see them. And, maybe, tune the ads with whatever filters are set up in the corp recruitment window.
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#34 - 2016-12-12 13:39:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Gadget Helmsdottir
Memphis Baas wrote:


Anyway, my suggestion for in-station, since the ads are RECRUITMENT ads, there's no reason for anyone who's already in a player corp to see them. And, maybe, tune the ads with whatever filters are set up in the corp recruitment window.



Those 'recruitment ads' are Corp and Alliance propaganda.
Taking PVP to inside the stations. Twisted

--Gadget

Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist

Given an hour to save New Eden, how would respected scientist, Albertus Eisenstein compose his thoughts? "Fifty-five minutes to define the problem; save the galaxy in five."

Cade Windstalker
#35 - 2016-12-12 14:50:55 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Agreed. I am paying CCP for over a decade to fix their own product and do the work for them (with your help).

Bombarding us with commercials that we don't want is just condescending and a slap in our faces.

May I remind CCP who is paying their bills, their rent and their food??


You mean the people putting up those ads in the hangars? Big smile

Also half the launcher 'ads' are feature and patch announcements. Given how few people actually actively read this stuff it's a good thing CCP are actively announcing stuff in the launcher.
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