EVE General Discussion

Why do people keep relating in game currency to RL currency? You can print ISK in game pretty easily.

really it's just more curiousity give the economic nature of eve it's always idle curiosity for me.

Given the fact that unlike othe MMO's EVE has real loses vs the wimpy let me just repair my stuff and get on with it.

I know it's not legit and that isk is created in ways beyond currency exchanges.

that's all not a big deal, it's just idle curiosity.

One thing to remember about that 14.7 trillion number is that it's the ISK destroyed since zKB started collecting killmails, not only just since the war in Tribute began.

I do understand that for sure .

and i totally understand that it is not a representation of the cost of this lastest event.

I also get that costs incurred on other systems are not included but should be included in the cost of the take down.

This. There is no exchange for this game currency and ISK has zero value. I agree, you can make isk out of nothing.

They aren't directly exchangeable, but they are equatable - making isk takes time, regardless of whether you rat, or work a job and pay for plex.

According to the US Census Bureau, the average wage for someone with a good degree is roughly 80k a year, or about 27 dollars a hour. So, by working, someone effectively makes 1.35 plex/h, or 1.4b/h or so at current prices. Normal ingame income varies, but it can be anywhere from 100m/h in a VNI in null, to 500m a hour doing sites in a high class wormhole, or even more with things like carrier/supercarrier ratting.

So clearly there's a lot of range here, especially since may people will have higher or lower paying jobs, but working off of the 353b estimate, that means roughly anywhere from 250 manhours to 3500 manhours destroyed.

However, there is a greater cost. According to this reddit post M-OEE8 had about 4 thousand people in local for about 5 hours. That's 20,000 man hours spent sitting in 10% time dilation.

Let this be a lesson to you, the expensive part wasn't the keepstar, or the battle. The expensive part was sitting in TiDi hell.

20 dollars? the keep star was more than that

well it does make catchy headline, but very deceptive.

While one can more or less indirectly 'buy' ISK via buying PLEX, which has RL currency attached to it, it is precisely because you cannot legally exchange ISK to RL currency that people are willing to risk & spend that much ISK for in-game things.

Let's say you can spend 300b ISK to have a keepstar in game, then yeah, people who have that much ISK (or many times that much ISK) in game probably won't care too much about spending them in game.

But if the only way to place a keepstar in game was through spending RL currency, I'm sure we'd see a LOT less keepstars around in game.

Just for easy calculation let's say 1 PLEX = 1 billion ISK, and 1 PLEX costs $20 USD.

300b ISK in game? I may think long time before making such in-game commitment, but probably because that is quite a bit ISK for me in game, but well, if one has the ISK, then why not?

On the other hand, $6,000 USD to have something in-game which can be (and most likely will be at some point) destroyed?

Sure I could afford it with RL money, but I probably won't spend $6,000 USD on a video game, considering other things I could get with that much RL money.

Many people can, and do spend over $6,000 RL money on various things per year, at least accumulated. But I can't imagine majority of population (even hardcore gamers) would spend that much on a video game - they probably rather spend that on hardware gears.

May be a bad comprasion, but from a quick calculation it looks like I spend about $3,500 USD+ on buying cigarettes per year, which I completely don't mind, but I would never quit smoking IRL so that I can have a keepstar in game lol.

you saying a doctorate is not a good degree? maybe he just has higher standards than you

Yes, Lugh. That's exaaaactly what I must be saying...

It actually has nothing to do about taking the highest degree one can get and using that as the basis for comparisons...

BTW, the median for personal earnings in general for the US is just over $55K.
And I'm quite proud of my degrees, thank you very much.

--Gadget